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Post by pipoz4444 » April 1, 2020, 3:53 pm

Quote from Dr. David Price of Weill Cornell Medical Center in New York City.

42 minute This disease affects Everyone Who is Not in the Age Group of 0 - 14 :-k :-k

43 min You can get this disease from age 20 years old, Maybe 16 years old, up to 105 years old. :-k :-k

The younger you are the less likely it is to that is to happen

https://vimeo.com/399733860?fbclid=IwAR ... 8KJWRfghI0
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Post by jackspratt » April 1, 2020, 4:03 pm

Not quite, and it's important.

It wasn't my memory from watching the video, and as I don't want to watch it again, this is from a written report (which I assume is accurate) about the video:
How does this virus affect infants and newborns?

While there have been some reported cases of COVID-19 among the youngest of us, Dr. Price says there’s almost no COVID-19 for the age population of 0 to 14 years old. Studies in Wuhan, China showed that, in a pediatric hospital, between 2% to 4% of patients were infected. But all they had was a slight cough. The bottom line is that kids, while they may carry this virus, are not getting sick.
https://www.wesmoss.com/news/an-importa ... ave-price/

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Post by Doodoo » April 1, 2020, 4:07 pm

Jack
Here is an article form the UK whre a newborn was infected

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... -in-london

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Post by pipoz4444 » April 1, 2020, 4:22 pm

jackspratt wrote:
April 1, 2020, 4:03 pm
Not quite, and it's important.

It wasn't my memory from watching the video, and as I don't want to watch it again, this is from a written report (which I assume is accurate) about the video:
How does this virus affect infants and newborns?

While there have been some reported cases of COVID-19 among the youngest of us, Dr. Price says there’s almost no COVID-19 for the age population of 0 to 14 years old. Studies in Wuhan, China showed that, in a pediatric hospital, between 2% to 4% of patients were infected. But all they had was a slight cough. The bottom line is that kids, while they may carry this virus, are not getting sick.
https://www.wesmoss.com/news/an-importa ... ave-price/
I don't want to watch it all again, but I am sure when he asked the question about children, he responded with words to the effect that, children under the age of .......can't catch the virus, whereas at the time the evidence did apparently exist to to the contrary. Price made the Video on 22 March 2020

The CDC in China had already identified a number of children under 18, who had caught the virus between Mid January to early February 2020

Nevertheless, I will watch the Price Video again and if I am wrong in what he said, then I will redact =; =;

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Post by tamada » April 1, 2020, 6:02 pm

Infants and children CAN be infected, it's a virus after all but the mortality rate is extremely low and any long-term impact on health is very unlikely. The vast majority of deaths have been in the +60 with pre-existing health issues and/or impaired immunosuppression demographic.

No citations but just a summation of what each and every health advisory has stated.

When the media publishes that there's been an infant or child death, with either case in an otherwise healthy child, the previous medical facts get quickly forgotten and all the old and medically unsubstantiated fears flood back and suspicions of being lied to resurface.

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Post by sometimewoodworker » April 1, 2020, 6:08 pm

tamada wrote:
April 1, 2020, 6:02 pm
Infants and children CAN be infected, it's a virus after all but the mortality rate is extremely low and any long-term impact on health is very unlikely. The vast majority of deaths have been in the +60 with pre-existing health issues and/or impaired immunosuppression demographic.
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Post by jackspratt » April 1, 2020, 7:30 pm

This seems to have wandered off in a different direction.

My query was about the possibility of Covid19 (non)infection in infants and kids.

It wasn't about mortality rates (and causes thereof) of the various age groups.

It is important, because Dr Price has been promoted (including by me) as a highly credible source of information. If that needs to be re-assessed, so be it.

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Post by sometimewoodworker » April 1, 2020, 8:39 pm

jackspratt wrote:
April 1, 2020, 7:30 pm
This seems to have wandered off in a different direction.

My query was about the possibility of Covid19 (non)infection in infants and kids.

It wasn't about mortality rates (and causes thereof) of the various age groups.

It is important, because Dr Price has been promoted (including by me) as a highly credible source of information. If that needs to be re-assessed, so be it.
It seems reasonably clear that all ages are able to become infected.

There is no reason that I can see that infants from shortly after birth can not become infected, and every reason to believe that everyone from birth onward will become infected if exposed. There is a documented case of a baby who got tested because the mother was positive.

The death figures show that up to around 10 it will almost certainly be Mild or unnoticed.

From 10 to around 40 it will be extremely rare for the infection to be severe though certainly possible.

It is likely that until a fast antibody test is developed and all older people who desperately need testing have been tested there is no great need to test an age group that is in virtually no danger.

They will be tested at some point to find out if they have had the infection and so are probably immune. Or have never caught it.

Right now I think there is not enough data one way to the other.
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Post by pipoz4444 » April 1, 2020, 9:04 pm

JS,

Granted it is not exactly how I first phrased it, but he clearly says, at the 42 Minute mark

Quote:

42 minute This disease affects Everyone Who is NOT in the Age Group of 0 - 14 :-k :-k

43 min You can get this disease from age 20 years old, Maybe 16 years old, up to 105 years old. :-k :-k

The younger you are the less likely it is to that is to happen (the Australian Chart is showing a different story, with a significant number of both sexes, in the Age groups 20-29 and 30-39 catching the Covid 19 virus)


Maybe he would have been better leaving of the part "........Who is NOT in the Age Group of 0 - 14", and sticking with just "Everyone"

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Post by noosard » April 1, 2020, 9:13 pm

The answer JS is if you breathe you can get corona virus
no exceptions for age or gender
just the rates may vary

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Post by sometimewoodworker » April 1, 2020, 10:35 pm

pipoz4444 wrote:
April 1, 2020, 9:04 pm
JS,

Granted it is not exactly how I first phrased it, but he clearly says, at the 42 Minute mark

Quote:

42 minute This disease affects Everyone Who is NOT in the Age Group of 0 - 14 :-k :-k

43 min You can get this disease from age 20 years old, Maybe 16 years old, up to 105 years old. :-k :-k

The younger you are the less likely it is to that is to happen (the Australian Chart is showing a different story, with a significant number of both sexes, in the Age groups 20-29 and 30-39 catching the Covid 19 virus)


Maybe he would have been better leaving of the part "........Who is NOT in the Age Group of 0 - 14", and sticking with just "Everyone"

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I think it most probable that his hospital (NewYork) and New York state have not tested any younger kids as none of them have presented with serious symptoms and they don’t have the facilities or kits to test those who are showing mild or no discomfort.

Of course only those with symptoms (and probably significant ones) will go or be taken into hospital

If you are not testing you can not find. So you’re probably correct to say everybody sooner or hopefully later.
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Post by stattointhailand » April 1, 2020, 11:38 pm

12 year old died in Belgium, 13 yr old died in UK (no other illnesses)

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Post by Drunk Monkey » April 2, 2020, 9:29 am

Without trawling thru all the covid threads i cant say if this has been posted already .. if it has apologies , i just saw it on Udon Social forum.

https://youtu.be/pEQcvcyzQGE

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Post by saint » April 2, 2020, 10:45 am

Exactly what a few of us have said on here , only to be chastised by a few wishy washy libtards , who say its not Chinas fault . Whats the saying , you are what you eat .

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Post by tamada » April 2, 2020, 11:00 am

Drunk Monkey wrote:
April 2, 2020, 9:29 am
Without trawling thru all the covid threads i cant say if this has been posted already .. if it has apologies , i just saw it on Udon Social forum.

https://youtu.be/pEQcvcyzQGE

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Post by tamada » April 2, 2020, 11:03 am

saint wrote:
April 2, 2020, 10:45 am
Exactly what a few of us have said on here , only to be chastised by a few wishy washy libtards , who say its not Chinas fault . Whats the saying , you are what you eat .
Because,what a few of us here realize, blaming China isn't going to make it get better any faster. That horse has bolted so many times, I am surprised there's any horses left.

If anyone wants to point a finger at DJT and/or Xi, keep a third finger ready for the gullible and/or complicit WHO.

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Post by noosard » April 2, 2020, 11:18 am

tamada wrote:
April 2, 2020, 11:03 am
saint wrote:
April 2, 2020, 10:45 am
Exactly what a few of us have said on here , only to be chastised by a few wishy washy libtards , who say its not Chinas fault . Whats the saying , you are what you eat .
Because,what a few of us here realize, blaming China isn't going to make it get better any faster. That horse has bolted so many times, I am surprised there's any horses left.

If anyone wants to point a finger at DJT and/or Xi, keep a third finger ready for the gullible and/or complicit WHO.
Exactly
WHO kept telling the world everything was under control
What they meant it was under wraps

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Post by Drunk Monkey » April 2, 2020, 11:21 am

tamada wrote:
April 2, 2020, 11:00 am
Drunk Monkey wrote:
April 2, 2020, 9:29 am
Without trawling thru all the covid threads i cant say if this has been posted already .. if it has apologies , i just saw it on Udon Social forum.

https://youtu.be/pEQcvcyzQGE

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At least she doesn't blame Vlad, eh?

Sorry, 60 Minutes Australia lost ALL credibility on this shitshow when their other munter did an 'expose' on the Wuhan wet market and the coronavirus replete with 'undercover' shots of empty Hong Kong streets and the pet shop at Chatuchak Market in Bangkok. A + B = F !!!
tamada wrote:
April 2, 2020, 11:03 am
saint wrote:
April 2, 2020, 10:45 am
Exactly what a few of us have said on here , only to be chastised by a few wishy washy libtards , who say its not Chinas fault . Whats the saying , you are what you eat .
Because,what a few of us here realize, blaming China isn't going to make it get better any faster. That horse has bolted so many times, I am surprised there's any horses left.

If anyone wants to point a finger at DJT and/or Xi, keep a third finger ready for the gullible and/or complicit WHO.
I get where are coming from Tam BUT .. regardless of a specific country / people to blame the fact this was covered up and could of been avoided is the point.

Not withstanding the lady in the vid wanting her 60 mins of fame ..stand out moments fro the vid ..

China admitting only 40 cases in Wuhan and non infectious human to human
China allowing millions to travel all over the world for the lunar new year
The incompetence of the WHO believing when being told only 40 cases and it wasnt transferable human to human
Whistle blowers .. i dead 1 missing ???

The incompetence of world leaders would not have come into this if things were not covered up from the outset.

Very sadly all too late yes ... but worth pointing out this was / is of Chinas making and made worse thru lies and cover ups.

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Post by saint » April 2, 2020, 11:40 am

Not talking about making it better , faster . Too late for that , and i agree the WHO are worse than usless , and do love sitting on that fence .
No , my concern is if nothing is done , then what , Virus part three the sequel .
Meaner and nastier than covid 19 , as covid 19 is over and above what Sars was .
Imagine that for a minute , Because it happening again is odds on , if nothing is done to get the Chinese to basically clean up their act .

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Post by tamada » April 2, 2020, 11:57 am

saint wrote:
April 2, 2020, 11:40 am
Not talking about making it better , faster . Too late for that , and i agree the WHO are worse than usless , and do love sitting on that fence .
No , my concern is if nothing is done , then what , Virus part three the sequel .
Meaner and nastier than covid 19 , as covid 19 is over and above what Sars was .
Imagine that for a minute , Because it happening again is odds on , if nothing is done to get the Chinese to basically clean up their act .
Now we're talking.

Can western government's that have been historically desperate and eager to supply China's insatiable demands for raw materials and thus suck on that great socialist teat ever be trusted to hold the Chinese's feet to the fire on this? I mean can we trust our own governments to change their ways any more than we can trust China to eradicate their wet-market economy?

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