Rational analysis of the predictions has already been done.jackspratt wrote: ↑May 28, 2020, 7:59 pmI guess we will find out when rational analysis has been done,
They were extremely over exaggerated, "extremely"
Why would we listen to them now?
Rational analysis of the predictions has already been done.jackspratt wrote: ↑May 28, 2020, 7:59 pmI guess we will find out when rational analysis has been done,
You refer to my "superior medical and scientific knowledge."cjd01 wrote: ↑May 28, 2020, 8:10 pmabsolutely not, you gave an opinion and I'm asking for your criteria on how long the world should be shut down until we (me) rabbits can venture forth and perhaps get run over by a Thai driver or motorcyclist
in the history of the world there have been countless disasters and pandemics IMHO the aftermath of this enforced lock down in both social and economic terms will make the current unfortunate deaths seem insignificant and I'm not being flippant or uncaring
Does not matter one jot how old you are, you still catch and spread the virus at the same rate.
Link?mickojak wrote: ↑May 28, 2020, 8:20 pmRational analysis of the predictions has already been done.jackspratt wrote: ↑May 28, 2020, 7:59 pmI guess we will find out when rational analysis has been done,
They were extremely over exaggerated, "extremely"
as usual when confronted to put up or shut up deflect deflect and piffle pifflejackspratt wrote: ↑May 28, 2020, 8:21 pmYou refer to my "superior medical and scientific knowledge."cjd01 wrote: ↑May 28, 2020, 8:10 pmabsolutely not, you gave an opinion and I'm asking for your criteria on how long the world should be shut down until we (me) rabbits can venture forth and perhaps get run over by a Thai driver or motorcyclist
Which of course, I have never claimed, nor would be silly enough to do so.
Unlike, for example:
in the history of the world there have been countless disasters and pandemics IMHO the aftermath of this enforced lock down in both social and economic terms will make the current unfortunate deaths seem insignificant and I'm not being flippant or uncaring
agree everybody has the right to feel safe and secure, but the initial computer models had predicted massive deaths world wide for example Australia 150,000 dead, I believe it's now 103. My inconvenient question is when do we stop, if the answer is wait for an antidote will 'there be anything left to open for.
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Once again, unlike some others, I have never pretended I have the answer to whatever it is you are asking.
The problem is the people making the rules dont know eitherjackspratt wrote: ↑May 28, 2020, 10:59 pmOnce again, unlike some others, I have never pretended I have the answer to whatever it is you are asking.
I am happy to leave that to people who do have an idea - mainly because I believe they are qualified to do so.
As for your corner - it seems it it already occupied.
I'll take your word for it on the Australia figures. But the question, then, is whether the low number of fatalities is the result of preventative measures like masks, quarantine, social distancing, or unrelated to them and would have been the same even without those things. I don't want to take the chance and find out later that I was wrong.cjd01 wrote: ↑May 28, 2020, 9:05 pmagree everybody has the right to feel safe and secure, but the initial computer models had predicted massive deaths world wide for example Australia 150,000 dead, I believe it's now 103.
Well we have a new norm now, "experts" with computer models predicting uncountable deaths with annual or biennial shutdowns and quarantines, if their inaccurate it's ok "rounding error next", dissenters will not be tolerated You will obey.Khun Paul wrote: ↑May 29, 2020, 7:45 amWell it has been stated that because of this Lock-down, many people with otherwise innocuous problems are not seeking medical advice and that may hasten the demise of some, plus the ceasing of surgical operations may also have a detrimental effect on some . Not counting the mental toll of isolation on some more especially the old and mentally ill.
These deaths when occurring will not be linked to anything other than the reasons for death . We have documented stats that shoiw, Old people in care Homes have died before their time , but at what percentage higher no-one knows. Lockdown may have achieved the desired result, but the cost to human life, and economic stability is enormous .
One I feel short have been a short sharp event three weeks maybe, educates the masses and get on with life. Not this long drawn out debacle.