Decline of British economy

[aznyron]

Dave I posted my feeling about Sir Winston but I do want to ad I think the USA & UK was wrong in going to war with Iraq and executing S/H but going back to the days of WW 2 I was a young boy I remember the blackout covering the windows with blankets going to food stores with ration coupons to buy groceries
and this was in the USA the UK had it much worse they witnessed there cities being bomb and yes civilians were killed and I also know it was the German people who put Hitler in to power as the old saying go
you might get what you pray for and Germany got it with Hitler so if Sir Winston Churchill ordered the bombing of Cities in Germany he was justified in doing so and I applaud him for doing it sadly some innocent people got killed but this is the price you pay when you want to take over the world and force your ideology and politics on your neighboring countries like we are trying to do in the M/East

[saint]

off topic i know , but after reading mortis post , and all the bits about winnie , good guy ,bad guy ect i got too thinking all those poor souls who died or where mamed in WW 2 were i beleive fighting to stay free . i reckon a total waste of life , when you consider that englishmen and women are not free in there own country , and before long will indeed be a minority in that country . imagine if you will a conflict similar happening today , how many imagrants who have enjoyed all britain has to offer ,would fight for their adopted country , my guess is not many . there would be the biggest exodus the world had ever seen . incidently to stay a little on topic , there is a hell of a lot of money that leaves britain on a monthly basis ,to immagrants home lands , now that cant help , can it ??? i realise this post makes me sound racist ,which i am not , but facts are facts , it may not be P C but i will learn to live with it , after all its too much P C that has contributed to the mess britain is in today . and from what people who are unfortunate enough to still live there tell me , its getting worse , even to the extent of teaching islam in main stream schools .

[bigwavedave]

the ozzies got it right..... if you dont swear allwgence to the flag eff off.... easy

[motasi]

British, economy?

What is that? Over the past 232 years, the only economy the Britiots have had has been via the USA's, and most recently, dependent direct from the Chinese, and other Asian economies. Once the USA had gained its independence, The UK became the USA’s little bitch *****.

UK is even dependent upon the French and wow, as well as the German and Russian economy. The best thing the UK might have is, Canada.

It figures, that the average Ex-pat Brits would argue such issues, from living abroad in Udon Thani.

Saying the Brits have their own economy, is like saying, the British have an actual empire.

The empire is long gone dead, and will never exist again, as in, never in a million Years. The average UK citizen here, loves their country so much; they left it all behind, for Muslims terrorists, and Indians to take care of it. I am sure that is bad, and I know all Anglo Saxon Brits are the minority. I would argue the USA, but they were stemmed from immigrants from day one, via Europe, hence the “Melting Pot” saying.

I would never say the USA is the best of anything. When is the last time any American has even seen an American Indian.? How many Americans can say “Oh, meet my Indian buddy, Blue Balls Screaming Eagle $hit”. The USA has more Chinese than Native American Indians.

One could even go so far as to say that if the rest of the world hates the USA so much, that they should hate England equally, because they drew first blood over a mere 200 plus years ago,forcing the colonials to fight for independence, and like always through out England’s history, ultimately they got waxed by a bunch of country hicks.

I can go to the UK tomorrow and live fairly well for nearly free, because the average British citizen voted to give myself and or any other wanna be immigrant all the benefits the average Brit can never get. I can technically get a free house within 24 hours anywhere in England.

The masses of idiots voted for the idiots that passed the laws.

I am definitely not saying this does not happen in America. It’s been happening for a lot of years, but regardless, and in countless ways, America in my opinion, dictates the worlds economy. I could be wrong, but I’m putting it very simple. Not rocket science, and for sure not Thai rocket science, if there is such a thing.

From what I have observed here in Udon, some Brit folks seem to piss on each other, ones self, and then finally some piss on the country they reside in. That said, it’s nearly the same for all country men of all other countries, of which they escaped to be here.

Some pretend to conquer, piss on, and piss on the pissed. Maybe Hitler did kick a goal.

I do like the UK, but damn, that place is way more Jacked than the U.S.A.

What a shame for such a beautiful country.

[lepidoptra]

Anyone remember the opening of the Dartford tunnel. Our wonderful government informed us as soon as they recovered the cost of building and maintenance the toll charge would be abolished.
Went up to 1pound 50p last week an increase of 50%. Apparently the queues are getting longer and longer as drivers look for the extra 50p in their pockets.
I suppose another tax via the back door was inevitable under the present decline in our economy.

[macduff]

We certainly have lost our britishness.We are the minority now and everywhere you go in the town i live there are clear signs that other cultures have took route. Even our town centre has a different look of festive light's to accommodate our ever spreading neighbours. I'm not saying it's like this all over the UK,but I'm getting totally .....d off with it. Like someone said on the thread if your from out of town you get a place to stay and money placed in your bank. The UK is a laughing stock and I've had enough of it. No wonder were in the ---- and bankrupt.

[westerby]

off topic i know , but after reading mortis post , and all the bits about winnie , good guy ,bad guy ect i got too thinking all those poor souls who died or where mamed in WW 2 were i beleive fighting to stay free . i reckon a total waste of life , when you consider that englishmen and women are not free in there own country , and before long will indeed be a minority in that country . imagine if you will a conflict similar happening today , how many imagrants who have enjoyed all britain has to offer ,would fight for their adopted country , my guess is not many . there would be the biggest exodus the world had ever seen . incidently to stay a little on topic , there is a hell of a lot of money that leaves britain on a monthly basis ,to immagrants home lands , now that cant help , can it ??? i realise this post makes me sound racist ,which i am not , but facts are facts , it may not be P C but i will learn to live with it , after all its too much P C that has contributed to the mess britain is in today . and from what people who are unfortunate enough to still live there tell me , its getting worse , even to the extent of teaching islam in main stream schools .

Hmm, interesting post.
When you say, country, are you talking of UK or England?
How would you define an immigrant to the UK/England and how would you define someone who's English?
Why do you think I'm not free in my own country and why am I unfortunate to live here?
Where's your evidence to suggest that I will soon be a minority in my own country and how long will it take?
What's the ratio of English people to immigrants in UK/England?
How much money leaves our shores to the immigrants' Homelands?
Where are these main stream UK/English schools that teach Islam?

[saint]

westers your like a dog with a bone . i really cant be bothered to respond to your pettiness . if you believe you live in the land of milk and honey , im really happy for your illusion .

[lepidoptra]

Hi Saint
I think you're right I think westers plays devils advocate on most of his posts, I just ignore them and only read the interesting ones.

[mortiboy]

ENGLAND? UK? Who cares! A vast amount of wealth is sapped out of the Government by "immigrants".
I thought the Government is suppose totake care of their own population first!
Claimant unemployment above 1 million by Christmas is now a dead cert, as is unemployment at least above 2.25 million on the government's preferred survey based measure by next spring at the latest. It is still the CIPD's expectation that, depressing as today's news is, the jobless total will eventually peak at somewhat below the near 3 million mark reached in the 1990s recession. But too many more sets of figures like today's, plus the likelihood of many more job cuts to come.
Almost 140,000 immigrants settled in the UK last year, a fifth up on 2002. Immigrants given settlement because of work doubled to 29,600.
Just imagine the dole money being dished out!Must be astronomical
Thailand got it right! =D> They dont allow foreigners work here.Why? because they take care of their own first The current labour force of 33.80 million, there were 32.83 million employed which was increased from the last year's figure of 31.90 million people.
MOTASI ! Who said We voted them in? I certainy never! But Do you think It would have been any different if The other lot won?
Uk have a good system, but it has been allowed to be abused.
To me The Uk Government have let me down.Thats why I am here.Even when i informed them I was living abroad, they reduced my pension.Even though I am not getting free medicine ect and other benifits.
All the time people hide their heads in the sand( re saints comment)It will just get worse!

[westerby]

westers your like a dog with a bone . i really cant be bothered to respond to your pettiness . if you believe you live in the land of milk and honey , im really happy for your illusion .

[bigwavedave]

Well there is one good thing that will come out of all of this!!!!! When the money's ran out all the spongers will eff off back where they came from!!!

[westerby]

Thailand got it right! =D> They dont allow foreigners work here.Why? because they take care of their own first The current labour force of 33.80 million, there were 32.83 million employed which was increased from the last year's figure of 31.90 million people.

Hang on, I thought foreigners could work in Thailand. Isn't that why the Thais issue category B visas?

[timthebrit]

Westerby said:

'Hmm, interesting post.
When you say, country, are you talking of UK or England?
How would you define an immigrant to the UK/England and how would you define someone who's English?
Why do you think I'm not free in my own country and why am I unfortunate to live here?
Where's your evidence to suggest that I will soon be a minority in my own country and how long will it take?
What's the ratio of English people to immigrants in UK/England?
How much money leaves our shores to the immigrants' Homelands?
Where are these main stream UK/English schools that teach Islam?'

Look on the bright side Saint and Lepidoptra, if this man seriously belives the UK (or England) to be so wonderful, presumably he will will stay there.

[Laan Yaa Mo]

[quote="westerbyHmm, interesting post.
When you say, country, are you talking of UK or England?
How would you define an immigrant to the UK/England and how would you define someone who's English?
Why do you think I'm not free in my own country and why am I unfortunate to live here?
Where's your evidence to suggest that I will soon be a minority in my own country and how long will it take?
What's the ratio of English people to immigrants in UK/England?
How much money leaves our shores to the immigrants' Homelands?
Where are these main stream UK/English schools that teach Islam?
[/quote]

westers your like a dog with a bone . i really cant be bothered to respond to your pettiness . if you believe you live in the land of milk and honey , im really happy for your illusion .

Westerby said:

Look on the bright side Saint and Lepidoptra, if this man seriously belives the UK (or England) to be so wonderful, presumably he will will stay there.

I am a bit mystified by the recent posts. In what way are the questions posed by Westerby petty? They seem pretty intelligent ones to me, and need answering if one is to uphold the thesis made that England/U.K. has been taken over by pesky foreigners.

Where does Westerby indicate or even imply that he lives in the land of milk and honey, and that he believes the U.K. (or England) is so wonderful? He may well believe this, but I do not garner this view from his recent posts.

I lived in England for over two years between 1990 and 1993, and loved it. This is not to say that England is the land of milk and honey but it was culturally and mentally stimulating for someone from the first Dominion. The newspapers, university guests, museums, art galleries, parks, historical records and so on were absolutely stimulating and stunning.

I did not like the creeping political correctness in the U.K., or the loony left council in Lambeth which forbade the flying of the Union and St. George flags during the Falklands War (it was permissable to fly the flags of Jamaica and South Africa). However, the good outweighed the bad, and the liberal and socialist self-deprecators there who hate anything white are no better and no worse than their counterparts in Canada, the United States, New Zealand and Australia.

As far as the decline of the British economy goes, um, well, uh, I do not think John Major created the problem.

I must admit it was very hospitable and kind of the British government to continue to deposit child credit cheques in the Russell Square branch of the Midlands Bank every month for three years after we had returned to Canada even though I informed them that we were no longer living at Mecklenburgh Square. And, it was nice to vote in the elections for the Euro Parliament.

God Save the Queen !!!

[mortiboy]

Quote.... Hang on, I thought foreigners could work in Thailand. Isn't that why the Thais issue category B visas?

Yes ,some foreigners CAN work here! Providing You have a business where you can supply employment for Thai 's.Or if you have degree or diploma in a high position type of Job.
You will hardly get a permit to work as a taxi driver.ect

[steveway2]

Empires rise and fall, and the fortunes of countries wax and wane.

Britain had its day in the sun, now its empire (and captive market) is gone.

Some adjustment has been made and there has been some success in reviving the British economy - but there is no good reason why Britain should dominate the world economy, or western economies.

Blaming the decline of the British economy on migrants is a bit rich.

Many of these "migrants" were part of the empire and merely took up the option to reside in the mother country - much to the horror of the "empire people".

The world economy is swinging from the west to the east - the decline in Britain is part of that larger change.

I think most of the problem is that some British remember how it used to be and cannot adjust to how it is.

[aznyron]

Steve as American we have same problems it called cheap labor the big corporations are moving to countries were there is no safety rules no unions and cheap labor and of course no TAX to pay
but when they get in to trouble they come running back to there government for help and like fools they help them that includes arming our young men & women and sending them off to war for the big boys who will screws us in the end need I san any more

[LoveDaBlues]

Empires rise and fall, and the fortunes of countries wax and wane.

Britain had its day in the sun, now its empire (and captive market) is gone.

Some adjustment has been made and there has been some success in reviving the British economy - but there is no good reason why Britain should dominate the world economy, or western economies.

Blaming the decline of the British economy on migrants is a bit rich.

Many of these "migrants" were part of the empire and merely took up the option to reside in the mother country - much to the horror of the "empire people".

The world economy is swinging from the west to the east - the decline in Britain is part of that larger change.

I think most of the problem is that some British remember how it used to be and cannot adjust to how it is.

Excellent post. One could change "Britain" to "United States" and the post would still be valid. Both are (sadly) on the decline. Glad I'm livin here and not the USA.