Radical Islam (opinion)

Post by **ronan01** » January 16, 2015, 2:08 pm

Earnest wrote:
ronan01 wrote:I think you mean air strikes are Nature's way of striking the "believers"
No, good buddy, I meant what I said, I think it's accurate to say they are Unbelievers of the broad culture that we as Westerners adhere to. For example, equal rights for women, etc.

Understood.

Post by **GT93** » January 17, 2015, 9:27 am

Well what's the solution? I reckon we need to get Muslim dominated countries inside the western economic tent with lots of middle class jobs in their countries. The French in particular also need to open the door to opportunity to their Muslim population.

I think if people see work as a way to improve their lives, they're less likely to want to go around killing other people on religious grounds. And yes, I know more than just jobs is needed. What else?

I still think far more western people are murdered and harmed by domestic violence in western countries and that's a problem that also needs a lot of work. There are a hell of a lot males out there murdering and bashing those they live with. Males similar to us - e.g age, race, occupations, nationality etc. We prefer to talk about rare violence inflicted by religious nutters.

Post by **noosard** » January 17, 2015, 9:46 am

Getting Muslim dominated countries inside the western economic tent
Well some of these muslim countries are wealthy enough to help their own people but greed and power stops this from happening
As for improving some lives, the radical ones don't care so they will still kill in the name of who ever or what ever
Some of these radical ones also come from those improved lives

Post by **GT93** » January 17, 2015, 10:24 am

It's a shame western countries haven't been pushing the Middle East dictatorships more firmly towards democracy for decades ...

Yes, I agree noosard some of the terrorists have been from privileged backgrounds. I'd suggest if these privileged lads could more easily chase and have sxx with females they might follow their cxcks rather than loony ideology. So I'd add sexual liberation to the prescribed cure.

Post by **Earnest** » January 17, 2015, 3:49 pm

GT93 wrote:It's a shame western countries haven't been pushing the Middle East dictatorships more firmly towards democracy for decades ...

Does a Western style democracy comfortably fit all nations or do Arab nations need a strong, despotic leader to hold the country together? Are we, as Westerners, mistaken in believing our model is the best way forward? Is the Western world harming itself in pursuing that idea (Iraq, Libya and Syria)?

Open questions, I don't have the answers....

Post by **Aardvark** » January 17, 2015, 4:27 pm

Your right of course. After the fall of Gadhafi and Hussein the middle east became a hot bed of murder and corruption. Thanks America. now we're flooded with refugees who are bleeding the public purse dry. Better leave the Evil Bast@rds alone and concentrate on our own affairs .....

Post by **jackspratt** » January 17, 2015, 4:43 pm

Aardvark wrote:Your right of course. After the fall of Gadhafi and Hussein the middle east became a hot bed of murder and corruption. Thanks America.

Thanks America!

I seem to remember Australia had a fair bit to say in respect to Hussein.

Thanks Lil' Johnny.

now we're flooded with refugees who are bleeding the public purse dry.

Hardly, on either count.

What's the old sign you see in the China shops - "You break it, you buy it".

Better leave the Evil Bast@rds alone and concentrate on our own affairs .....

Agree.

But Lil' Tony doesn't - what is it with these right wing, conservative pricks we elect as our government?

Post by **Aardvark** » January 17, 2015, 4:51 pm

Your riding the fence Jack

Post by **Earnest** » January 17, 2015, 4:56 pm

Aardvark wrote:Thanks America.

jackspratt wrote:Thanks America!

I seem to remember Australia had a fair bit to say in respect to Hussein.

You forget Bliar supplied the iraqi WMD evidence to the US while Cameron assisted in securing the 'no fly zone' mandate for Libya and even attempted to do the same for Syria until he was stopped by a House of Commons vote. We also had boots on the ground in both nations.

Post by **noosard** » January 17, 2015, 4:57 pm

What do you mean after the fall of those 2
Pretty sure was happening before that
Just our silly goverments thinking they could stop it
Our silly goverments taking sides
When both sides are as bad each other
Both in this case meaning more than 1
and probably more than you can count on each hand

Post by **jackspratt** » January 17, 2015, 4:59 pm

Aardvark wrote:Your riding the fence Jack

Please explain, Pauline.

Post by **noosard** » January 17, 2015, 5:03 pm

Last pollie you could trust
as said what she meant even with both feet in her mouth
Too dumb to be pc

Post by **monkeyman** » January 17, 2015, 7:26 pm

http://youtu.be/N46mIHEGHN0

Pat seems to have it sussed...

Post by **Laan Yaa Mo** » January 18, 2015, 4:09 am

This article does not make an answer about Islam or radical Islam any closer, but it does offer food for thought.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/01/16 ... th-itself/

Post by **MALC** » January 18, 2015, 7:02 am

pat has it sussed.for sure.

Post by **socksy** » January 18, 2015, 7:08 am

jackspratt wrote:
Aardvark wrote:Your right of course. After the fall of Gadhafi and Hussein the middle east became a hot bed of murder and corruption. Thanks America.
Thanks America!

I seem to remember Australia had a fair bit to say in respect to Hussein.

Thanks Lil' Johnny.

now we're flooded with refugees who are bleeding the public purse dry.
Hardly, on either count.

What's the old sign you see in the China shops - "You break it, you buy it".

Better leave the Evil Bast@rds alone and concentrate on our own affairs .....
Agree.

But Lil' Tony doesn't - what is it with these right wing, conservative pricks we elect as our government?

If your'e referring to 'Bliar' Jack he wasn't conservative but a Labour ***** Bush Puppet

Post by **ronan01** » January 18, 2015, 7:53 am

If get rid of Rupert Murdoch and Tony Abbott the entire islamic world will be at peace. You know its right - gentlemen, do your duty.

Post by **ronan01** » January 18, 2015, 7:53 am

noosard wrote:Last pollie you could trust
as said what she meant even with both feet in her mouth
Too dumb to be pc

Last I heard she was planning a comeback - should be a hoot!

Post by **jackspratt** » January 18, 2015, 8:39 am

socksy wrote:
But Lil' Tony doesn't - what is it with these right wing, conservative pricks we elect as our government?
If your'e referring to 'Bliar' Jack he wasn't conservative but a Labour ***** Bush Puppet

Nah! socksy - I was referring to the colonial version - Tony Abbott.

The only Oz prime minister in history whose popularity has continued to go downhill since almost the day he got the top gong.

Post by **jackspratt** » January 18, 2015, 8:43 am

Laan Yaa Mo wrote:This article does not make an answer about Islam or radical Islam any closer, but it does offer food for thought.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/01/16 ... th-itself/

Which is why I say let them sort it out amongst themselves, in their own region - they don't need our help.