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Re: Climate Change

Post by noosard » June 17, 2022, 11:33 am

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Re: Climate Change

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Another view..
Global operational coal-fired power stations by country 2022
Published by N. Sönnichsen, Jun 9, 2022
China has the greatest number of coal-fired power stations of any country or territory in the world. As of 2022, there were 1,110 operational coal power plants on the Chinese Mainland. This was nearly four times the number of such power stations in India, which ranked second. China accounts for over 50 percent of total global coal electricity generation.
Coal phase-out worldwide
Coal power plants present various health and environmental threats. Besides demanding large quantities of raw material to be burned, this energy source pollutes water and has high greenhouse gas emissions. Due to these reasons and to tackle the climate crisis, 40 countries committed to phase out their coal power plants at the COP26 summit in 2021. However, the three leading economies with the greatest number of operational coal-fired plants that year did not agree to the terms. In 2021, the global capacity of coal power plants in construction stood at 184.5 gigawatts with an additional 111.8 gigawatts announced, which is nonetheless a considerable decrease compared to the previous years.
Carbon dioxide emissions
China has been the largest coal polluter worldwide since 1990. In 2020, figures reached a record high of 7.4 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide. That year, India had the second largest carbon dioxide emissions from coal use, followed by the United States. The U.S. was either the largest or second-largest polluter for 55 years, before being overtaken by India.
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Number of operational coal power plants worldwide as of January 2022, by country/territory

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Characteristic Number of power plants
China (Mainland) 1,110
India 285
United States 240
Japan 91
Indonesia 84
Russia 72
Germany 63
Poland 44
Turkey 34
Vietnam 26
Czechia 24
Philippines 24
South Korea 23
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Re: Climate Change

Post by tamada » June 17, 2022, 12:43 pm

noosard wrote:
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...and export ALL its coal to China instead so they can feed their 3534 power stations.

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Re: Climate Change

Post by Doodoo » June 17, 2022, 1:19 pm

Australian "Coal exports forecast to smash record with value set to break $100 billion this financial year
ABC Capricornia / By Katrina Beavan
Posted Mon 4 Apr 2022 at 1:22pmMonday 4 Apr 2022 at 1:22pm, updated Mon 4 Apr 2022 at 2:49pm"

Australia supplies the Ammunition(Coal) to the Rifles (Coal Plants ) in China
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Re: Climate Change

Post by noosard » June 17, 2022, 4:47 pm

what you do with the coal is not Oz's fault

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Re: Climate Change

Post by Barney » June 17, 2022, 9:13 pm

tamada wrote:
noosard wrote:
June 17, 2022, 11:33 am
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...and export ALL its coal to China instead so they can feed their 3534 power stations.

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Re: Climate Change

Post by pepesgrill » June 17, 2022, 9:26 pm

i heard it was cows & sheep burping in NZ that
was upsetting the balance. apparently they can be
fed seaweed to cut down on noxious gas. gt93 ?

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Re: Climate Change

Post by tamada » June 18, 2022, 5:34 am

noosard wrote:
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what you do with the coal is not Oz's fault
What you do with your AR15 has nothing to do with Colt or Bushmaster.
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Re: Climate Change

Post by pepesgrill » June 18, 2022, 5:43 am

seriously, burping cows produce methane. 10x more harmful than co2. the beastly bovines alone
are responsible for 10% of world greenhouse gases.

some clever aussie scientists discovered if fed cows component seaweed reduces to nearly 0%

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Re: Climate Change

Post by tamada » June 18, 2022, 6:05 am

pepesgrill wrote:
June 18, 2022, 5:43 am
seriously, burping cows produce methane. 10x more harmful than co2. the beastly bovines alone
are responsible for 10% of world greenhouse gases.

some clever aussie scientists discovered if fed cows component seaweed reduces to nearly 0%
What gets me is how can the placid, non-aggressive cow, the ultimate vegan, be causing such riotous catastrophe? If we stop eating them or drinking their milk, it can only get worse, no?

Saw a brief segment on telly about a chap who's made some sort of gas mask for cows. Looks like Cargill have got behind the development (that's called green washing in the oil and gas business) and they may be out for general use next year.

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Re: Climate Change

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Re: Climate Change

Post by tamada » June 19, 2022, 9:12 am

Oops...looks like someone was rubbish at chemistry.
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Re: Climate Change

Post by papafarang » June 19, 2022, 10:52 am

tamada wrote:
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Oops...looks like someone was rubbish at chemistry.
death by cow methane , the car would be an easier way to go :lol:
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Re: Climate Change

Post by tamada » June 19, 2022, 11:37 am

papafarang wrote:
June 19, 2022, 10:52 am
tamada wrote:
June 19, 2022, 9:12 am
Oops...looks like someone was rubbish at chemistry.
death by cow methane , the car would be an easier way to go :lol:
Cows have been known to topple over when they fall sleep. If the cow fell on you, that could be fatal, no?
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Re: Climate Change

Post by Whistler » June 19, 2022, 11:45 am

Arrives at Pearly Gate. Sorry Peter, I was asleep in a field when daisy got dozey, fell both asleep and on top of me.

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Re: Climate Change

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 19, 2022, 8:28 pm

noosard wrote:
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This is sheer brilliance. Logical too. 555+
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Re: Climate Change

Post by tamada » June 19, 2022, 9:01 pm

Laan Yaa Mo wrote:
June 19, 2022, 8:28 pm
noosard wrote:
June 19, 2022, 9:05 am
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This is sheer brilliance. Logical too. 555+
CH₄ versus CO.

Brilliant? Logical?

How so?
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Re: Climate Change

Post by GT93 » June 20, 2022, 2:43 am

pepesgrill wrote:
June 17, 2022, 9:26 pm
i heard it was cows & sheep burping in NZ that
was upsetting the balance. apparently they can be
fed seaweed to cut down on noxious gas. gt93 ?
Yes, agriculture is a significant contributor to climate change. And yes research is being done on possible solutions. It seems to me that humans will need to consume fewer animal products. That will improve our health too.

Will we? Probably not.
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Re: Climate Change

Post by Whistler » June 20, 2022, 11:29 am

GT93 wrote:
June 20, 2022, 2:43 am
pepesgrill wrote:
June 17, 2022, 9:26 pm
i heard it was cows & sheep burping in NZ that
was upsetting the balance. apparently they can be
fed seaweed to cut down on noxious gas. gt93 ?
Yes, agriculture is a significant contributor to climate change. And yes research is being done on possible solutions. It seems to me that humans will need to consume fewer animal products. That will improve our health too.

Will we? Probably not.
Burping both ends.

To be fair, farmers are the pointy end of the impact of climate change. Smaller farms are switched on. Larger corporate farm enterprises perhaps less so. Cubby Cotton in Queensland are environmental vandals.
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Re: Climate Change

Post by Khun Paul » June 20, 2022, 4:58 pm

Well I used to klnow a farmer where I was in Shropshire that ran much of his electrical equipment on the farm from the methane produced from his 200 pigs, he was looking at harnessing it from his 100 cows as well. I never actually got to see his installation sadly.As he said I grow the feed to grow the animals, why not use them to power the equipment.

Do not forget landfills have Methane tubes to let out the gas emanating from the landfill as it decomposes.

It is not beyond credibility to harness methane from farm animals just needs to be researched and installation friendly

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