Another **** rounded up in LOS (a teacher too)

Post by **izzix** » January 17, 2007, 2:04 am

Thai police arrest British man wanted on child rape charges

A British man wanted in the United Kingdom for the rape of an 8-year-old girl has been arrested in Thailand, police said Tuesday.

Sean McMahon, 45, was arrested Monday at his Bangkok apartment following a request from British authorities, Police Lt. Gen. Kamronwit Thoopkrajang said. He did not provide any additional details on the arrest.

McMahon allegedly repeatedly raped an 8-year-old girl between January 1997 and September 1998 and was arrested in April 1999 for the crimes in the town of Turbay in Britain, Kamronwit said. He was released on bail and disappeared, he said.

"The suspect will be repatriated back to England to face the charges in accordance with the extradition treaty (between the two countries)," said Kamronwit, adding that a Thai court is expected to take up the repatriation request on Wednesday.

McMahon remains in police custody and is expected to appear at the repatriation hearing.

Kamronwit said it was unclear when McMahon came to Thailand, though police believe he was working as an English teacher for several years in the country.

With minimal screening and ready access to children, teaching English has been a popular job for pedophiles in Asia.

John Mark Karr, who confessed to killing 6-year-old American beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey only to be freed last year for lack of corroborating evidence, also taught English at several schools in Bangkok, reports AP.

Also last year, an Australian who taught English in Jakarta, Indonesia, was charged with molesting street children. He told police he videotaped at least 50 teenage boys.

Another Australian teacher who faced sex allegations at home committed suicide last year in Indonesia, where he also was accused by human right activists of abusing children.

Post by **beer monkey** » January 17, 2007, 4:47 am

was arrested in April 1999 for the crimes in the town of Turbay

Should read Torbay(Devon) and not Turbay.

Post by **BKKSTAN** » January 17, 2007, 5:57 am

Unfortunately,****'s seem to flock to teaching positions as I guess it not only gives them access ,but access with a power position!
I would like to see mandatory background checks on all falang teachers in Thailand because the publicity surrounding these buttholes tarnishes the image of all falangs in Thailand!

Post by **izzix** » January 17, 2007, 6:53 am

they keep saying there will be checks on teachers but you know LOS its all hot air ! If you are looking for a farang **** on the run look in a thai school to find him.They all seem to accumulate in Thailand like a lost baggage office for pedos . There must be an army of them out there "teaching english" or posing as boy scout troop masters !

Post by **Doc** » January 17, 2007, 7:43 am

Where are the statistics to back up your claims Stan and Izzix?

McMahon may have been working as an English teacher for several years. However, no reports of him having engaged in **** activities whilst teaching. He was charged in England - but hasn't been found guilty. Hence, he is not a convicted ****.

I would be willing to bet that there are more "tourists" here who are pedos than there are teachers. There are plenty of news reports of the tourists being arrested for engaging in that type of activity. I don't recollect in recent times of a teacher being arrested for engaging in those types of activities here in Thailand.

Both of your comments seem to imply that the majority of English teachers are pedos. I personally take exception to that implication, as would all of the teachers that I personally know here in Udon Thani.

Post by **Funman** » January 17, 2007, 7:53 am

I am an English teacher here in LOS and let me say this before all of you start giving unqualified opinions on a subject you know nothing about. After the Mark Karr incident the police came around to the school (Govt) that I was working at and collected all the passports and made all the teachers sign waivers stating that the police could do further background checks.
Obtaining a teaching position in LOS used to be an easy way to have an income and maintain a low profile. Mark Karr brought a lot of heat on all us English teachers here in the LOS and I wouldn't mind having my 10 minutes alone with the SOB and administer a little "curbstone justice" . There's a lot more perv's running around in this country than there are the occaisonal teacher. I lived in Pattaya for 3 1/2 years so I've seen plenty of little boy diddlers that came from Europe. They arrest them all the time down there but they they only get the ink in Pattaya.
So, before you start spouting off about something you know nothing about remember: It is better to be thought ignorant than to open up your mouth and prove it!

Post by **BKKSTAN** » January 17, 2007, 9:29 am

I would agree that there are probably a lot of pedos running around Thailand!I don't see where the news has reported more tourists versus expats,but that is immaterial!
Doc,I read my post over and over!I can not see where my statement insinuated that the majority of teachers were ****'s!Maybe you can point it out to me !You sure you read the post clearly and can say that you are not being a little defensiveat the mention of teachers?
My point was that teachers should not be hired without thorough background checks ,especially for any charges related to **** actions.I think **** actions by falang teachers cast a much wider negative veiw of all of us among the Thais!

Funmantoo,who are you directing your comments to?

valentine · Post by **valentine** » January 17, 2007, 10:13 am

Having read the news article posted by Izzix, it would seem the man in question has been charged with rape, a much more serious charge than being a paedophile. One which would most certainly have been revealed in any routine employment check whatever the job.The failure seems to me, to lay more with the British police for allowing him bail, thus giving him freedom to travel, rather than the Thai authorities for not doing a background check, although , I do agree it would have been prudent to have done so.
Maybe as he would have had a DNA sample taken at the charging stage that a simple addition to the passport would have sufficed. I can hear all you "personal freedom" supporters shouting, but I for one would be prepared to submit to this if it just prevented one child getting abused.

Post by **Doc** » January 17, 2007, 11:03 am

BKKSTAN wrote:Doc,I read my post over and over!I can not see where my statement insinuated that the majority of teachers were ****'s!Maybe you can point it out to me !

You stated:

BKKSTAN wrote:Unfortunately,****'s seem to flock to teaching positions...

The word "flock" would insinuate that the profession is chock full of pedos. You have absolutely no evidence to substantiate your statement - it is merely an expression of your opinion.

The fact is that only a small number of falang teachers have been arrested for being pedos here in Thailand. Karr was an alleged **** - nothing was proven. Hence, in theory, he is not a ****. In the states if you were to call him a ****, he would have grounds to sue you.

When the Karr debacle took place, both you and Izzix took shots at falang teachers - and made statements that painted with a broad paint brush. You have continued that type of painting again. That is what I am sensitive to. That is what other teachers would be sensitive about as well.

Post by **Funman** » January 17, 2007, 11:06 am

"Unfortunately,****'s seem to flock to teaching positions as I guess it not only gives them access ,but access with a power position!"

"They all seem to accumulate in Thailand like a lost baggage office for pedos . There must be an army of them out there "teaching english" or posing as boy scout troop masters !"

I rest my case!

Post by **Funman** » January 17, 2007, 11:28 am

Also, I might like to point out that John Mark Karr confessed to a crime he did NOT commit. DNA evidence gathered at the crime scene excluded him from being the perp. As far as the charge he fled from in Petaluma Ca. was for possesion of some child porn on his computer and he was a teacher there too. Not for being a ped in the sense of the word or child molester. He was never convicted of any crime and is now a free man although I am happy to say that he will never be allowed in the LOS again. Granted he was a perv and weird to boot but that being said in most of our countries 50+ YO men that sleep with 20+YO (bar) girls are considered pervs. Or, people that pay for sex.
There are probably more Thai peds out there than there ever will be falangs. I think it would be a good idea to look at the weekly Internet posting of the Pattaya Mail and the daily BKK Post.
It seems that Stan and Izzy want to paint all falang teachers with the same brush and I take offense to that.

Post by **BKKSTAN** » January 17, 2007, 12:01 pm

funmantoo wrote: It seems that Stan and Izzy want to paint all falang teachers with the same brush and I take offense to that.

I would take offense to it too,if that was true.In my case,it is not!
I explained my post,although to a teacher,I would think it was unnecessary!
Can you read?Are you a 'teacher' that just spouts off or do you pay attention to what people say?
Your ridiculous ranting and accusing me shows a defensiveness that is over the top IMO!
''Seem to flock to teaching positions'' does not in anyway equate to ''all'' or even ''most''!
What the hell do you teach?

Post by **JimboPSM** » January 17, 2007, 12:13 pm

Stan, I believe you are incorrect in this case, your use of the word "flock" implies a large number.

From Web Dictionary http://www.webdictionary.co.uk/definiti ... uery=flock

Definitions of flock -
1. [n] - a church congregation guided by a pastor
2. [n] - a group of sheep or goats
3. [n] - a group of birds
4. [v] - move as a crowd or in a group

From Wikipedia

Post by **Funman** » January 17, 2007, 12:22 pm

Obviously I can read and know the meaning of what I write where as you seem to have gotten lost along the way. Doc's interpretation of what you posted was the same as mine so I'm not alone in my interpretation of your post. I'm not the only one that thinks this way. Did you not read Doc's post or have you singled me out for your wrath? He also took exception to the word "flock" and stated the same thing about being painted with the same (broad) brush! Either way, I just consider the source.
You can sure dish it out but you don't like it coming back your way do you?

oldfield · Post by **oldfield** » January 17, 2007, 12:26 pm

BKKSTAN wrote:Unfortunately,****'s seem to flock to teaching positions as I guess it not only gives them access ,but access with a power position!
I would like to see mandatory background checks on all falang teachers in Thailand because the publicity surrounding these buttholes tarnishes the image of all falangs in Thailand!

A bit harsh - there are thousands of qualified professional teachers here in LOS - only a handful are perhaps criminals and/or peadophiles I reckon.

Post by **Funman** » January 17, 2007, 12:30 pm

Way to go Jimbo. B4 one uses "big" words they should have a dictionary handy. I carry two when teaching, one English/Thai (Se-Ed's) and the other is a Merriam-Webster and I encourage my students to use them.

Post by **BKKSTAN** » January 17, 2007, 12:54 pm

JimboPSM wrote:Stan, I believe you are incorrect in this case, your use of the word "flock" implies a large number.

From Web Dictionary http://www.webdictionary.co.uk/definiti ... uery=flock
Definitions of flock -
1. [n] - a church congregation guided by a pastor
2. [n] - a group of sheep or goats
3. [n] - a group of birds
4. [v] - move as a crowd or in a group

From Wikipedia

Post by **Doc** » January 17, 2007, 1:16 pm

BKKSTAN wrote:I explained my post,although to a teacher,I would think it was unnecessary!

Can you read?Are you a 'teacher' that just spouts off or do you pay attention to what people say?

Your ridiculous ranting and accusing me shows a defensiveness that is over the top IMO!

''Seem to flock to teaching positions'' does not in anyway equate to ''all'' or even ''most''!

What the hell do you teach?

Stan - even though the post is directed to Funmantoo - I'm going to jump in here because he is saying the exact same things that I am saying, though perhaps a bit less diplomatically. (Not that I have ever been even remotely accused of being "diplomatic"...)

Yes, Stan, I can assure you that I can read. Quite well I believe. You may believe that you have explained your post, but I didn't really see an explanation. What I saw was more of a rationalization to what you wrote.

Yes, I am defensive of the profession that I chose to enter here in LOS. I take pride in what I do. I take pride in the fact that I am considered to be an excellent teacher. I associate with numerous teachers here in Udon - and I know that none of them are pedos here in LOS.

Sure - I support criminal background checks. I support them for anyone and everyone that is applying for anything over and above a basic 30 day tourist visa.

But, I also know that those background checks are a waste of time, money and effort. There is no way that anyone can check for criminal records in all 50 states, plus territories. Same goes for European countries. Unfortunately, many criminal convictions don't get reported to the FBI or Interpol.

John Mark Karr would not have shown up as being a wanted person, due to the fact that the charge he jumped bail on was only a misdemeanor. It would have possibly shown up on a California check - but if he said he was from Alabama or whatever, California never would have been checked.

In short - you have nothing to back up your claim that pedos are flocking to Thailand to teach English. If you do have some statistics to back that up - then post them. Otherwise, I really do believe that an apology would be in order for those teachers who did not "flock" here to teach and further their *** activities.

Post by **BKKSTAN** » January 17, 2007, 1:22 pm

I apologize to all the teachers for using the term 'flock'!It is obvious to me that the term 'flock' has an implication that I did not mean to imply in my statement!

Post by **Funman** » January 17, 2007, 1:46 pm

Apology accepted Stan, thank you. You are correct Doc, I am a rather blunt person. But that being said, there is nothing left up to conjuncture or mis-interpreatation when I say something. No sugar coating and let the chips fall where they may!