Malaysia Airlines plane missing with 239 on board

Post by **maaka** » March 15, 2014, 5:15 pm

yes Yemen is on the limit Mate, but there is little where else to go, and it smacks of their style, and there is abit of raruraru going down between Malaysia and Yemen of late..whereas the Stans could easily snatch a plane closer to home, and they have no problems with Malaysia, or China as far as I am aware...

that is a question..is this pay back for Malaysia for something, or what..why a Malaysia airlines plane..why not a Chinese, or a USA, or a Russian plane ???

Post by **Zidane** » March 15, 2014, 7:08 pm

Yes,point taken,but two thirds of the passengers are Chinese.If it was a Yemen-Malaysia thing then why not hijack a domestic Malaysian flight ?
Looks something anti-China to me......

Post by **GT93** » March 16, 2014, 12:43 am

I think it's most likely an inside job - one of the pilots has gone bananas. If so it's a shame that he hadn't recently taken a few mental health days in Pattaya to put his problems in perspective.

If it was terrorists, I'd have thought someone would be claiming credit by now. I guess the NSA and GCHQ have been too distracted by yahoo porno to be doing much real work lately. They might have missed something.

Post by **Laan Yaa Mo** » March 16, 2014, 12:52 am

Maybe it is the one who is supposed to be getting married soon and after the fun he had with those two South African ladies in the cockpit, he had second thoughts.

Seriously, no-one knows at this stage and it must be a terrible nightmare for the people waiting to hear word about their loved ones on the aeroplane.

No-one has done it yet, but I think some thanks should be given to the technicians in the United States who have put out information that has proven to be correct, and pushed the Malaysian Government to issue some truthful facts.

Post by **BigBubba** » March 16, 2014, 1:19 am

If it was terrorists, I'd have thought someone would be claiming credit by now. I guess the NSA and GCHQ have been too distracted by yahoo porno to be doing much real work lately. They might have missed something.

Ed Snowden is in Moscow and no longer has access to the info to solve this matter.

Post by **GT93** » March 16, 2014, 1:26 am

Good one BigBubba. He's also probably too busy helping Putin in Crimea.

Post by **maaka** » March 17, 2014, 4:01 am

recognise the building in the background GT, of this pic of the missing Malaysia airplane.

Post by **Laan Yaa Mo** » March 17, 2014, 4:06 am

It does not look like the missing aeroplane at all, but a photograph of the pilot and co-pilot of that flight.

Post by **Prenders88** » March 17, 2014, 4:16 am

Who in their right mind is going to book a ticket with Malaysia Airways now?

Post by **maaka** » March 17, 2014, 6:09 am

ok ok LYM so I missed a word out on the end of the sentence..

Post by **maaka** » March 17, 2014, 6:27 am

no Prenders, I believe ticket sales are soaring for mother-in- laws

Post by **mally** » March 17, 2014, 6:48 am

All very strange. here's my take on it (NOT an educated one as I'm not in the aircraft industry or military !).
Misleading info (very restricted) was released, only updated when "outside" people (reporters etc:) reveal info from other sources.
I really don't see how an aircraft can fly through any countries airspace as an unidentified aircraft and not be challenged by their airforce.
To me this stinks of a massive cover up by the authorities.......so..... what if - the plane was hijacked - the various governments are well aware of it - and it has landed somewhere and hush hush negotiations are being done to secure it's release (together with it's passengers) and a news silence is part of the deal ? It's possible that the only motive is money (the aircraft is worth a few dollars !), and things are deliberately being kept from the media to secure the release of the hostages.
Ok, it's an outside bet, but, at least my idea has the hostages alive !

Post by **rjj04** » March 17, 2014, 7:46 am

mally wrote:All very strange. here's my take on it (NOT an educated one as I'm not in the aircraft industry or military !).
Misleading info (very restricted) was released, only updated when "outside" people (reporters etc:) reveal info from other sources.
I really don't see how an aircraft can fly through any countries airspace as an unidentified aircraft and not be challenged by their airforce.
To me this stinks of a massive cover up by the authorities.......so..... what if - the plane was hijacked - the various governments are well aware of it - and it has landed somewhere and hush hush negotiations are being done to secure it's release (together with it's passengers) and a news silence is part of the deal ? It's possible that the only motive is money (the aircraft is worth a few dollars !), and things are deliberately being kept from the media to secure the release of the hostages.
Ok, it's an outside bet, but, at least my idea has the hostages alive !

Seconded!!! I believe Malaysia has a few more domestic commercial airports than just KL. How many of them are operating that early in the morning I don't know. Those smaller airports that handle domestic commercial aircraft may have radar as well. Along with military radar, the likelyhood of an airplane just dilly-dallying around, undetected, all over the globe these days is about zero. Unless it has stealth technology of course

It is like the authorities think that we all believe Star Trek is real and cloaking devices are normal. I really wished that some - or at least one - of the people asking questions in the meetings were actually pilots, or at least had some idea of how the ATC system works.

I just hate that innocent people have to be used by psycho people for their personal ends. Hope there is some sort of happy ending for a few of them at least.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/transp ... ntrol2.htm

I am just a lowly private pilot (with instrument rating) who hasn't flown in a few years. It would be nice if a commercial or ATP chimed in here... I have met a couple of them in these parts, so I know they are out there

Post by **GT93** » March 17, 2014, 9:15 am

maaka wrote:recognise the building in the background GT, of this pic of the missing Malaysia airplane.

Yes, I nearly always take Thai guests on the ferry maaka.

It would be great news, but I doubt very much that this plane is sitting on a tarmac somewhere in the Middle East. One of the pilot or the co-pilot is most likely a nut job who is now with the 70 virgins in paradise at the bottom of the Indian Ocean.

Perhaps he locked the other crew out of the cabin at an opportune moment? I don't know if it's possible that the nut job was then aiming for Pakistan or some similar place but got his co-ordinates wrong and ended up going south-west. If he did, the plane might not be found for years.

Post by **BigBubba** » March 17, 2014, 11:53 am

I'll "third" the scenario proposed by mally, and seconded by rjj04 as at least being PLAUSIBLE. And as he says, it at least leaves the passengers alive and with some hope. I think by this point if it had crashed into the water, even though a vast area, some sort of floating debris would have been spotted by now. Seal Team 6 is probably in training as we speak.

Post by **mortiboy** » March 17, 2014, 1:43 pm

I doubt is any help,but over a week ago, I dont remember day, I saw a twin engine Jet traveling east.
It was about 20,000 feet. No jet vapour.
I have Never ever seen aircraft that high above Udon.
Could have been military aircraft. But unusual to see Over Udon!
Probably nothing .Who knows!

Post by **dazzz** » March 17, 2014, 2:57 pm

Two days after it disappeared i stated to my wife i do not think this plane has crashed. I am not an expert but there seem to be some glaring facts not mentioned or not mentioned correctly.
If someone deliberatley wanted to crash the plane what was would be the point of turning off the transponders ?

Why is it being said mobile phone will not work. If it flew back over malaysia i am sure there would be a signal. As i stated before i used to work on fishing boats and i used to get a signal on my mobile over water at 35kms nothing to block the signal. If it was a hijack and the passengers knew i am sure there would be a lot of phones sending signal and i believe some would get through.The passengers in the failed 9\11 jet the 1 that hit the ground sent messages.

If it crashed anywhere in the sea there would be a mass of wreckage by now spread over a large area and somebody would have seen something by now except perhaps if it crashed deep into the indian ocean.

Decompression , Could a plane fly on with decompression . Could the transponders and aircraft be damaged with a quickly decompressed aircaft which the caused the aircraft to change course and crashed when it ran out of fuel. I am no expert so i do not know and assume as these things have not been mention they probably could not happened. I remember an aircraft a while ago which decompressed and fighter jets intercepted it but could do nothing as all the passengers and crew were unconsious and watched until it crashed . Never mention this scenario in this case so perhaps cannot happen.
One puzzle for me is why the transonders are in a place they can be turned off. Surely they should be in a place where they cannot be got at by anyone on the plane . First thing a hijacker will want to do is turn them off esp if they wanted to commit another suicide crash as 9/11
I think somebody knows more than they are letting on
dazzz

Post by **Bandung_Dero** » March 17, 2014, 3:34 pm

dazzz wrote: I think somebody knows more than they are letting on
dazzz

If you include proposed/alleged perpetrators that's about all any of us can assume to be correct, everything else is utter speculation which, whilst entertaining, is currently fodder for the 'tin hat' brigade!
Decompression WILL NOT effect aircraft avionics. PERIOD!
Transponder operation has been discussed in earlier posts on this thread.

Post by **pompui** » March 17, 2014, 3:42 pm

maaka wrote:here is nothing to prove that the plane is under the ocean, and indeed, I am wondering why they are searching the Indian Ocean

part quote from 11 march and agree

so why go looking there so early on in the search

what info were they holding back 6 days ago,and Malaysia sending out search planes in the south china sea just a smokescreen

Have been on just a couple of cold Guinesses today,thinking too much

Post by **tigerryan** » March 17, 2014, 10:42 pm

What kind of ----- would commit suicide with all of those poor helpless folks on board? I think Malaysian and Egyptian air need to have fire axes placed on both sides of the hardened cockpit door. I guess you know your screwed when you thought the pilot said something that sounds like Snack bar but you know he really said Allah Akbar.