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A 69-year-old man says he identifies as a 49-year-old and wants his age legally changed

Posted: November 8, 2018, 3:45 pm
by Udon Map
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From The Telegraph

A pensioner has begun a legal battle to be recognised as being 20 years younger than his actual age so he can go back to work and achieve greater success with women on Tinder.

Emile Ratelband, 69, argues that if transgender people are allowed to change sex, he should be allowed to change his date of birth because doctors said he has the body of a 45-year-old.

The entrepreneur and self-help guru is suing his local authority after they refused the amend his age on official documents.

Mr Ratelband's case has now gone to a court in the city of Arnhmen in the eastern Dutch province of Gelderland.

The case has caused controversy in his homeland, with the Dutch edition of Vice, a news website, asking, "Is Emile Ratelband disturbed or accidentally extremely woke?"

Mr Ratelband was born on 11th March 1949, but says he feels at least 20 years younger and wants to change his birth date to 11th March 1969.

Mr Ratelband said: "I have done a check-up and what does it show? My biological age is 45 years.

"When I'm 69, I am limited. If I'm 49, then I can buy a new house, drive a different car. I can take up more work.

"When I'm on Tinder and it say I'm 69, I don't get an answer. When I'm 49, with the face I have, I will be in a luxurious position.

"Transgenders can now have their gender changed on their birth certificate, and in the same spirit there should be room for an age change."

The Dutchman said he is discriminated against because of his age, and that he encounters problems in society on a daily basis. The court is due to deliver a written ruling within four weeks.

He complains that companies are reluctant to hire someone the age of a pensioner as a consultant.

And he says his move would also be good news for the government as he would be renouncing his pension until he reaches retirement age again.

The judge said that he had some sympathy with Mr Ratelband as people could now change their gender which would once have been unthinkable.

But the court said there would be practical problems in allowing people to change their birth date, as it would mean legally deleting part of their lives.

The judge asked Mr Ratelband about the status of his early years, from 1949 to 1969, if his official birth date was put back.

"For whom did your parents care in those years? Who was that little boy back then?," the judge asked.

The court is due to deliver a written ruling within four weeks.


Courtesy of The Telegraph
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/1 ... al-battle/

Re: A 69-year-old man says he identifies as a 49-year-old and wants his age legally changed

Posted: November 8, 2018, 4:23 pm
by Giggle
Good for him, I hope it lays bare the absurdity of allowing people to conflate their fantastical "identity" with reality.

Reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6amRqbEj4rs from earlier this year.

The Curious Case Of Sergio/a

An Argentine man legally changed his gender so he could retire earlier, according to a Thursday report.

Sergio, 59, an Argentine tax official, legally changed the last letter of his name to Sergia, assuming the identity of a woman, so he could retire five years early, the Daily Nation reported. Argentine law allows women to retire at 60 while men have to wait until they are 65 years old. . . .

Argentina also allows people to legally change their gender without any type of sex reassignment surgery, according to InformateSalta.

“This is a clear case of abuse of misuse of retirement rights and of the law on gender identity,” Salta Province civil registry head Matias Assennato said.

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Re: A 69-year-old man says he identifies as a 49-year-old and wants his age legally changed

Posted: November 8, 2018, 4:45 pm
by phen
Really good, I am 50 but feel 67 years and want too change my age.
So that I can stop work and get my pensioen

Re: A 69-year-old man says he identifies as a 49-year-old and wants his age legally changed

Posted: November 8, 2018, 5:37 pm
by Giggle
Sorry, here's the correct link to above story ^^.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ebauer/201 ... 95df086199

Re: A 69-year-old man says he identifies as a 49-year-old and wants his age legally changed

Posted: November 8, 2018, 7:50 pm
by Giggle
Udon Map wrote:
November 8, 2018, 3:45 pm

The judge said that he had some sympathy with Mr Ratelband as people could now change their gender which would once have been unthinkable.

But the court said there would be practical problems in allowing people to change their birth date, as it would mean legally deleting part of their lives.

The judge asked Mr Ratelband about the status of his early years, from 1949 to 1969, if his official birth date was put back.

"For whom did your parents care in those years? Who was that little boy back then?," the judge asked.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/1 ... al-battle/
Why does this judge presume Mr Ratelband was a little boy back then? He could well have been a unicorn or a hamster. The presumptuousness of this judge is absolutely preposterous. \:D/

Re: A 69-year-old man says he identifies as a 49-year-old and wants his age legally changed

Posted: November 9, 2018, 3:11 am
by SJP17
The one certainty in life, growing old and eventually croaking it, age defines many things for a good reason.

I worked with one guy who was 73 , had earned huge money in the oil industry, refused to retire because in his words "i just love working" even when we had redundancy looming this guy refused to go and fought his case threw the points matrix to be kept on, guys with young kids were paid off and he showed no sign of remorse for still sticking in there at near 74 !

Totally understand people having to work on due to poor finances, but guys like that man i found repulsive.

Hope they throw this case out, your age is your age whether you like it or not.

Re: A 69-year-old man says he identifies as a 49-year-old and wants his age legally changed

Posted: November 9, 2018, 11:07 pm
by tamada
Let it go Emile, let it go.

On the other hand, if he reckons being 69 is seriously limiting his leg-overs, he obviously hasn't been told about Pattaya.

...or Soi Sampan.

Re: A 69-year-old man says he identifies as a 49-year-old and wants his age legally changed

Posted: November 10, 2018, 12:02 am
by GT93
Perhaps he's still a bit young for rumbling in Pattaya or Udon. 8)

He may yet have his day.

Re: A 69-year-old man says he identifies as a 49-year-old and wants his age legally changed

Posted: December 7, 2018, 6:32 pm
by yartims
he has had his appeal turned down so he stays 69 to get a leg over