Chinese exploitation of girls and women

[jai yen yen]

Chinese culture and mentality that profit, power, control, greed, personal satisfaction, is to be attained at any cost. They are indeed a cancer spreading around the world.

Sounds like the good old USA to me......


Now having said that I want to say there are good Chinese people as well, many that have left China.....

and gone to Canada, no doubt...LOL

Some in Canada are O.K. Some not. The States has it's issues for sure but if I had to choose between living in China or The States it would the U.S. by a long shot.

[thaiguzzi]

when i was in Cambodia a farmer offered me a 12y girl to be wife for 500$

That beats a Thai dowry!!!!!

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[jai yen yen]

when i was in Cambodia a farmer offered me a 12y girl to be wife for 500$

That beats a Thai dowry!!!!!

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Just some reality, it is good to talk about what the world can really be like, rose colored glass's do not help change anything. Open discussion does.

[tamada]

when i was in Cambodia a farmer offered me a 12y girl to be wife for 500$

And...?

[saint]

He only had 495 $ in loose change . LOL

[Laan Yaa Mo]

This is another article from a few months ago that adds fuel to the fire. The victims in this case are Kachin and Shan women who are sold as brides to men in China many times by their own families:

Myanmar and China’s bride trafficking problem

In a new report, Human Rights Watch (HRW) documented numerous cases of women and girls from Myanmar’s Kachin and northern Shan states who were trafficked and forced into sexual slavery in China, as well as the alarming lack of law enforcement on the issue.

“Myanmar and Chinese authorities are looking away while unscrupulous traffickers are selling Kachin women and girls into captivity and unspeakable abuse,” said Heather Barr, acting Women’s Rights co-director at HRW and author of the report.

“The dearth of livelihoods and basic rights protections have made these women easy prey for traffickers, who have little reason to fear law enforcement on either side of the border,” she added.

Over the past 40 years, conflict in Kachin and northern Shan has caused long-term displacement and left many struggling to survive.

As humanitarian aid is largely blocked by Myanmar’s government, internally displaced people (IDPs) living in camps do not receive enough food, and renewed fighting has pushed families to the brink of desperation.

Since many men are taking part in the conflict, women often become the sole breadwinners for their families and have no choice but to seek work across the border in China. But often they are enticed under false pretences, falling prey to traffickers.

“Those living in the camps are without money or anything. Not being able to make ends meet, it is women and girls who pay the price,” said a worker from Kachin Women’s Association (KWA), which assists trafficking victims.

Another Kachin activist echoed similar sentiments, stating: “Normally the target is the family who are facing financial crisis …but now the [brokers] are targeting the IDP camps. It’s a better place to gather people. They are in one space. Most of the brokers are involved as relatives or acquaintances.”

HRW found that out of 37 survivors interviewed, 15 were recruited by friends and 12 by an acquaintance. Another six were recruited and sold by their own relatives.

Many of the trafficking survivors interviewed were sold for between US$3000 (K4.55 million) and $13,000. Once delivered to their “buyers,” they were often locked in a room and raped frequently so as to make them pregnant.

After fleeing conflict in Kachin and living in an IDP camp, 16-year-old Seng Moon was told by her sister-in-law of a job as a cook in China’s Yunnan province.

In the car, Seng Moon’s sister-in-law gave her something she said prevented car sickness, causing Seng Moon to fall asleep immediately. She told HRW that she woke up with her hands tied behind her back and was left with a Chinese family.

“My sister-in-law left me at the home …the family took me to a room. In that room I was tied up again …they locked the door – for one or two months …each time when the Chinese man brought me meals, he raped me,” Seng Moon said.

After another couple of months, she was told that she was married to the Chinese man, who continued to be abusive. Once Seng Moon was pregnant and gave birth, the husband said, “No one plans to stop you. If you want to go back home, you can. But you can’t take my baby.”

After two years, she was able to escape with her son.

Other survivors however were forced to leave behind their children. Of the people interviewed, eight left behind children.

Some trafficked women and girls were also forced to be both “brides” and labourers.

Ja Seng Nu was held for almost a year on a watermelon farm near Shanghai, locked in a room, physically abused, and raped every night by the son of the family who owned the farm “because [they] wanted a child as soon as possible.”

At the same time, she had to get up very early, cook breakfast for the farm’s workers, and work in the fields all day.

Those who were caught trying to escape usually faced even more abuse.

Mai Mai Tsawm, who was trafficked at 21, told HRW that she met a woman who had tried to run. After being caught by her “husband,” he tied her neck and hands to the back of a motorbike and dragged her behind the bike.

Tsawm said she did not know whether the woman had survived.

If they are able to escape, many trafficked women and girls have difficulty grappling with trauma and face stigma within their communities.

“Most victims face terrible situations. They come back, and they are totally different from us. They are just gazing, staring …People who just came back don’t even dare to go outside and show their faces …They feel guilty for being [trafficked],” a KWA worker said.

The rise in trafficking has been attributed to the “woman shortage” in China.

According to the Chinese government’s 2000 census, there were over 120 boys born for every 100 girls between 1996 and 2000. The World Health Organization has stated a normal ratio at birth is about 105 boys to 100 women.

The estimated 30 to 40 million “missing women” in the East Asian nation is partly due to its one-child policy, which led to a preference for boys.

The gender imbalance is leaving many Chinese men without wives. In fact, by 2030, projections show that 25 percent of Chinese men in their late 30s will never have married.

Despite evidence for trafficking, HRW expressed concern over the lack of law enforcement and services to prevent trafficking and help those who have been trafficked.

The organisation found that law enforcement officers in both China and Myanmar made little effort to recover trafficked women and girls, and those who sought help to find missing relatives were turned away and told they would have to pay if they wanted the police to act.

HRW also reported that when trafficking survivors escaped and ran to the Chinese police, they were sometimes jailed for immigration violations rather than treated as crime victims.

“The Myanmar and Chinese governments, as well as the Kachin Independence Organisation, should be doing much more to prevent trafficking, recover and assist victims, and prosecute traffickers,” Barr said.

“Donors and international organisations should support the local groups that are doing the hard work that governments won’t to rescue trafficked women and girls and help them recover,” she added.

HRW also urged both China and Myanmar to develop formal recruitment pathways for people from Myanmar to safely travel and legally obtain employment in China, and to establish measures to encourage reporting of suspected trafficking.

They also stressed the need to provide comprehensive services to survivors to combat stigma, to provide access to education and training, and end the practice of jailing trafficking survivors. – IPS

This is part of a series of features from across the globe on human trafficking. IPS coverage is supported by the Riana Group.

[Stantheman]

LYM, disgusting the way they are treated.

[Laan Yaa Mo]

Yes, it is a tragedy of the first order.

[tamada]

Back around 1983 when I was working around the oil fields in Henan Province, there wasn't a week went by when we didn't find bodies of abandoned, newborn dead females in among the rice paddy and corn. Same was reported by our small boat crews who would see them caught in current eddies at the temporary boat docks and ferry crossings after they'd been thrown into the Huang He upriver. Also saw our fair share of decapitated human heads out in the main river. Must have been some summary justice meted out further upriver.

I worked in various locations in mainland China through most of the '80's and they aren't my favorite nationality at all.

[papafarang]

As you say Kachin and Shan women being sold by their own families, is it legal ? .What's the difference between a Chinese guy buying a bride and a farang buying a bride, are farang bar owners in Thailand traffickers, they take a cut for sexual services. how about under age Laos girls trafficked to issan which is huge here, or how about Canadians trafficking and exploiting indigenous groups. As I said it's everywhere. China has no monopoly on this sad nonsense, I wonder , we know the meaning of trafficked, but I wonder how many "trafficked" women have married Chinese men and are happy ? you can find many sites with brides on the net, are these just trafficking sites ?

[jai yen yen]

Back around 1983 when I was working around the oil fields in Henan Province, there wasn't a week went by when we didn't find bodies of abandoned, newborn dead females in among the rice paddy and corn. Same was reported by our small boat crews who would see them caught in current eddies at the temporary boat docks and ferry crossings after they'd been thrown into the Huang He upriver. Also saw our fair share of decapitated human heads out in the main river. Must have been some summary justice meted out further upriver.

I worked in various locations in mainland China through most of the '80's and they aren't my favorite nationality at all.

I agree, no compassion for humanity, a very cold race generally speaking.

[Laan Yaa Mo]

I am not playing make believe, but am reacting to the facts in the two articles. Wherever tragedies like this take place, they should be condemned. Maybe these articles featuring China are appearing now owing to the U.S.-China trade talks. Nevertheless, China looks like the bad guy in the cases featured. You have a reputation for defending China, and I understand that you cannot get past that.

[papafarang]

I am not playing make believe, but am reacting to the facts in the two articles. Wherever tragedies like this take place, they should be condemned. Maybe these articles featuring China are appearing now owing to the U.S.-China trade talks. Nevertheless, China looks like the bad guy in the cases featured. You have a reputation for defending China, and I understand that you cannot get past that.

not condoning what goes on in china, just pointing out even Canadians have a sick record too, and Pakistani's, how about being a muslim in Afghanistan or Arabia . just recently a case in the uk of a 'thai bride" with her bones being found on a moor. this as you say is just propaganda . the real issue is "Men exploiting girls and women" or "gangs exploiting girls and women" . I could use the excuse 10,000's of women married off happily with just a handful complaining. but that's just BS.
As for reporting news ,long ago I realized journalists are paid for stories ,and journalists love to dramatize ,stretch the truth or even just make it up. that's what they get paid to do. I could head into the bar area in town where I could listen to half a dozen women who will tell me how bad their last farang boyfriend was ,how he took their money, beat them, wouldn't let them see their family.see there's a story... give it a headline ...but is it true ? who knows.

[tamada]

As you say Kachin and Shan women being sold by their own families, is it legal ? .What's the difference between a Chinese guy buying a bride and a farang buying a bride, are farang bar owners in Thailand traffickers, they take a cut for sexual services. how about under age Laos girls trafficked to issan which is huge here, or how about Canadians trafficking and exploiting indigenous groups. As I said it's everywhere. China has no monopoly on this sad ****, I wonder , we know the meaning of trafficked, but I wonder how many "trafficked" women have married Chinese men and are happy ? you can find many sites with brides on the net, are these just trafficking sites ?

Do you think that the few farang wife-buyers prowling darkest Issan lock them up, rape them and then kick them out when they've delivered a child?... keeping the child?

Yes, some farang bar owners are complicit in trafficking; that's hardly news.

You are correct that the Chinese don't have a monopoly but they do have a commanding chunk of the 'market' and have had for a long time. There were always Chinese girls available in ports in west Africa, even the smallest ones away from the oil patch. I remember seeing a couple of them flying un-escorted on the same flight as me from Brazzaville to Pointe Noire around 1994. Smartly dressed and quite plain looking, I wondered if they were working for a Chinese contractor. A week later, I went with the agent to a Chinese Restaurant and there they were, waiting tables. A month later, on the way back from offshore, we went for a few beers and a massage. The spa was upstairs at the same restaurant and guess who was working there? Ten years later, I am shore-based in Conakry, Guinea and a Chinese captain is asking if he can go drinking with me in a local bar as he's fed up shagging Chinese hookers with the rest of the Chinese crew. It's akin to the Korean and Chinese 'comfort women' for the 'traveling' Imperial Japanese pre-WWII and about half-a-dozen more nations during their wartime occupations including Thailand.

The fact that some of them meet a nice guy or choose to make the most of their misfortune, that doesn't in any way mitigate the whole, vile trafficking industry, regardless of who's game is longer or if the ladies acquiesce.

[papafarang]

As you say Kachin and Shan women being sold by their own families, is it legal ? .What's the difference between a Chinese guy buying a bride and a farang buying a bride, are farang bar owners in Thailand traffickers, they take a cut for sexual services. how about under age Laos girls trafficked to issan which is huge here, or how about Canadians trafficking and exploiting indigenous groups. As I said it's everywhere. China has no monopoly on this sad ****, I wonder , we know the meaning of trafficked, but I wonder how many "trafficked" women have married Chinese men and are happy ? you can find many sites with brides on the net, are these just trafficking sites ?

Do you think that the few farang wife-buyers prowling darkest Issan lock them up, rape them and then kick them out when they've delivered a child?... keeping the child?

Yes, some farang bar owners are complicit in trafficking; that's hardly news.

You are correct that the Chinese don't have a monopoly but they do have a commanding chunk of the 'market' and have had for a long time. There were always Chinese girls available in ports in west Africa, even the smallest ones away from the oil patch. I remember seeing a couple of them flying un-escorted on the same flight as me from Brazzaville to Pointe Noire around 1994. Smartly dressed and quite plain looking, I wondered if they were working for a Chinese contractor. A week later, I went with the agent to a Chinese Restaurant and there they were, waiting tables. A month later, on the way back from offshore, we went for a few beers and a massage. The spa was upstairs at the same restaurant and guess who was working there? Ten years later, I am shore-based in Conakry, Guinea and a Chinese captain is asking if he can go drinking with me in a local bar as he's fed up shagging Chinese hookers with the rest of the Chinese crew. It's akin to the Korean and Chinese 'comfort women' for the 'traveling' Imperial Japanese pre-WWII and about half-a-dozen more nations during their wartime occupations including Thailand.

The fact that some of them meet a nice guy or choose to make the most of their misfortune, that doesn't in any way mitigate the whole, vile trafficking industry, regardless of who's game is longer or if the ladies acquiesce.

yes all nasty really, The strange thing is it is already known. I mean by everyone what happens to these poor girls. yet parents are still willing to sell their own children,that's the real sad part. But forget the politics of propaganda ,we're in Thailand so any debate should really start here
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