Finally Some One with a Pair of Balls

[Doodoo]

"Iran making overtures like they want to talk."

But as far as Iran wanting to talk they have always put this forward. as can be seen in the attached
"Iran wants to talk with US if Trump will ease ‘maximum pressure’ campaign
By Mark Moore June 24, 2019"

I guess Donny finally got the memo

BIARRITZ, France, Aug 26 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Monday he would meet Iran’s president under the right circumstances to end a confrontation over a 2015 nuclear deal and that talks were underway to see how countries could open credit lines to keep Iran’s economy afloat.

But dont worry Trump has too much on his plate Tariffs, Korea , the Wall, Greenland, Immigrants (we havent heard from them in awhile and I dont imagine they have gone). drugs drugs drugs, some scandle on the horizon we havent heard of yet.
He will get around to talks sometime somewhere

[Doodoo]

Another one to add to the list of why he is The Chosen One
"President Trump called himself “an environmentalist” while boasting about American oil and gas production at the G-7 summit in France on Monday. His answer came in response to a question about whether he believes in the reality of climate change, which he has previously described as a hoax.

He didn’t answer the question."

[Lone Star]

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Despite assurances to Gibraltar courts by Iran, the Iranian tanker is now bound for Syria and is at a near-stop approximately 50 nautical miles off of Syria's coast. There is still no destination officially listed for its cargo.

In the meantime, Iran bitch-slaps Macron publicly with ultimatums to him and Europe. Reality may finally be slapping Macron across the forehead. Iran cannot be trusted.

The usually undependable IAEA of the UN has announced that Iran has already surpassed and violated enrichment levels of its uranium stockpile and has also surpassed and violated the agreed-upon total stockpile of uranium.

Iran was never interested in nuclear energy, which they could have accomplished without enrichment. Their interest was always nuclear weapons. They are determined to achieve that goal no matter what. The phony "Iran Deal" just allowed them to do with the blessings of the world.

[papafarang]

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Despite assurances to Gibraltar courts by Iran, the Iranian tanker is now bound for Syria and is at a near-stop approximately 50 nautical miles off of Syria's coast. There is still no destination officially listed for its cargo.

In the meantime, Iran bitch-slaps Macron publicly with ultimatums to him and Europe. Reality may finally be slapping Macron across the forehead. Iran cannot be trusted.

The usually undependable IAEA of the UN has announced that Iran has already surpassed and violated enrichment levels of its uranium stockpile and has also surpassed and violated the agreed-upon total stockpile of uranium.

Iran was never interested in nuclear energy, which they could have accomplished without enrichment. Their interest was always nuclear weapons. They are determined to achieve that goal no matter what. The phony "Iran Deal" just allowed them to do with the blessings of the world.

Exactly ,someone with a pair

[Doodoo]

"The usually undependable IAEA of the UN has announced that Iran has already surpassed and violated enrichment levels of its uranium stockpile and has also surpassed and violated the agreed-upon total stockpile of uranium.

Iran was never interested in nuclear energy, which they could have accomplished without enrichment. Their interest was always nuclear weapons. They are determined to achieve that goal no matter what. The phony "Iran Deal" just allowed them to do with the blessings of the world."

So, why can't they (Iran) have one too.
Isnt it part of the 2nd Amendment "The right to keep and bear arms"
If you want to come out and play with the fellas why can't we all start out with the same toys?

[jackspratt]

..... Iran cannot be trusted......

Remind me again - who unilaterally tore up the agreement?

2 words should cover it.

[Lone Star]

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Blacklisted Iranian tanker still listing off the coast of Lebanon/Syria. Now located about 45 nautical miles west of Tripoli. The US has warned that the tanker is "blocked property" and that "anyone providing support to the Adrian Darya 1 risks being sanctioned."

Observers expect a ship-to-ship transfer of the tanker's 2+ million barrels before it heads back to Iran.

Iran is squirming.

Spox in Iran announced threats to further stockpile and enrich uranium and have stated that they are at a point where they can produce 20% uranium in two days or less. Although uranium has to reach a threshold of 90% to be used in a nuclear weapon, the 20% level is considered to be an important level toward reaching a weapons-grade level.

Iran is now involved in ongoing threats toward Europe for not carrying out commitments; and Iran declared that they will take a yet unexplained third step within the next 30 days. In other words, further violate their agreement with the countries that remain committed to it.

Iran also rejected any bilateral talks with the US, but still insisted on a lifting of sanctions. They also made a recent demand of $15 billion in order to adhere to the agreement. (Those things aren't going to happen.)

Further threats included a build up of stockpiles of low enriched uranium and of heavy water. In addition, complete construction of the Arak reactor that could give Iran a source of bomb-grade plutonium.

A further threat by Rouhani to Europe was for them to help Iran facilitate oil exports and execute banking transactions. If not complying in 2 months, Iran will end the limits on the enrichment of uranium.

Regardless whether the US is involved in this NON-treaty or not (it was an agreement between Obama and Iran, the Iranians never signed off on the agreement, and Congress did not approve it), the accord is still enforceable and backed by Britain, France and Germany. If those three countries are committed to the agreement, it's up to them to make it work.

[papafarang]

They have made no threats at all to Europe ,just exercising their rights.anyway the way it's going the non proliferation treaty will be scrapped and China can just swap nukes for oil

[Lone Star]

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It was only a matter of time. The Euros know with what level of trust they are now dealing with Iran.

On Saturday, it was announced that Iran has begun using advanced centrifuges to enrich uranium. This is a direct violation of the "Iran Deal" that Europe still attempts to honor in order to continue trading with Iran. Where are all those cheerleaders outraged by 'greed'?

Experts now determine that Iran is about a year away from a nuclear weapon. Iran continues to promise that their program is peaceful, but there is no reason to enrich uranium at that level unless it is to weaponize. Iran's announcement even contradicted their 'peaceful' claim when their spox warned that Iran was running out of ways to hold up their end of the treaty.

“If Europeans want to make any decision, they should do it soon."

Uranium stockpile and enrichment levels have already been violated by Iran before Saturday's announcement.

The Associate Press reports that the Iranian tanker that left Gibraltar is now only about 2 nautical miles from Syria.

France's Macron seems to be taking Iran's threats seriously. Macron is considering offering Iran a $15 billion letter of credit to bribe Iran into staying true to the nuclear deal. Many believe that the Euros are doing this to keep trading with Iran and because the Euros rely more on imported oil.

Trump's bilateral efforts to engage with countries individually is a threat to the globalists and removes the UN from the equation completely. US autonomy and sovereignty is always primary -- especially in the "America First" doctrine. Multinational coalitions are a threat to "America First." Since Obama is a globalist, he always went along with it.

Since Trump withdrew from that phony deal, it has been exposed as not just a fraud, but we now know that those who negotiated the deal KNEW it was a fraud (weak verification, didn't stop nuclear development, refusal to account for prior nuclear work, refusing inspections of military facilities).

Trump's sanctions are working against Iran, and even Euro companies have defied their governments and left Iran because they view trading with the US as being more lucrative. US withdrawal from the agreement has brought more support from Israel and Saudi Arabia -- allies who are under greater threat than Europe.

Globalist ambitions must be protected, and Macron, not surprisingly, is trying to take the lead. It's called "appeasement." Whether Iran gets their line of credit or not, their goal will continue to be nuclear weapons.

[jackspratt]

..... Iran cannot be trusted......

Remind me again - who unilaterally tore up the agreement?

2 words should cover it.

[Doodoo]

Nuclear Warheads who aint telling
Israel is also generally understood to have nuclear weapons, but does not acknowledge it, maintaining a policy of deliberate ambiguity, and is not known definitively to have conducted a nuclear test. Israel is estimated to possess somewhere between 75 and 400 nuclear warheads. One possible motivation for nuclear ambiguity is deterrence with minimum political cost.
Now who do we trust????????

[Lone Star]

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No matter how many times it is repeated that Trump rejected the agreement and got the US out of a bad agreement, the following is still true.

Regardless whether the US is involved in this NON-treaty or not (it was an agreement between Obama and Iran, the Iranians never signed off on the agreement, and Congress did not approve it), the accord is still enforceable and backed by Britain, France and Germany. If those three countries are committed to the agreement, it's up to them to make it work.

[Lone Star]

Now who do we trust????????

You've already told us in numerous threads -- Russia, Iran, Chinese Communists, globalists, the biased media, unverified sources, and anyone else who hates Trump.

Up to you.

[Doodoo]

Now who do we trust????????
You've already told us in numerous threads -- DONNY DONNY DONNY How many more times can I lie to you Whe will it stop
November 2020

Up to you.

[jackspratt]

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No matter how many times it is repeated that Trump rejected the agreement and got the US out of a bad agreement, the following is still true.

Regardless whether the US is involved in this NON-treaty or not (it was an agreement between Obama and Iran, the Iranians never signed off on the agreement, and Congress did not approve it), the accord is still enforceable and backed by Britain, France and Germany. If those three countries are committed to the agreement, it's up to them to make it work.

Very disingenuous of you LS.

While the Bloated Orange Bullshiitter is waving the big bully sanction stick at everyone - including the 3 you name - what is in it for Iran?

SFA I would suggest.

Trump tore it up, for the reasons I outlined weeks ago. Just as with his war on China, he is entirely responsible for the consequences.

[Lone Star]

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Just as with his war on China, he is entirely responsible for the consequences.

Trump is responsible for the United States of America. He would have been irresponsible to have remained in such a dishonest agreement.

Obama made that agreement unilaterally and without the approval of Congress. There were parts of that agreement that weren't even made public and in which the Obama Administration lied about the contents of the agreement. It was between Obama and Iran. Trump had no responsibility to maintain it. None.

It's up to the remaining partners in the "salvage-trade-with-Iran" agreement to make it work. They could have left when the US withdrew and forced a better agreement. They chose to remain for purposes that benefited their countries. Up to them.

[jackspratt]

Sigh!

UNILATERALLY TEARING UP MULTILATERAL AGREEMENTS, AND STARTING TRADE WARS, HAS CONSEQUENCES.

[Lone Star]

Sigh!

UNILATERALLY TEARING UP MULTILATERAL AGREEMENTS, AND STARTING TRADE WARS, HAS CONSEQUENCES.

This is exactly where you are out of your element and misinformed.

Obama made that agreement unilaterally and without the approval of Congress. Many Democrats didn't even favor it and thought it was dangerous. There were parts of that agreement that weren't even made public and in which the Obama Administration lied about the contents of the agreement. It was between Obama and Iran. Trump had no responsibility to maintain it. None.

Why aren't you clutching your pearls over all of that? (rhetorical question)

The only consequences for Trump is to do what's best for the US. He did.

Trump didn't start any trade war. The trade war was against the US for decades and the US was losing mightily. Everyone was on the gravy train. No more. Trump is the first president to fight back.

[Doodoo]

Trump didn't start any trade war. The trade war was against the US for decades and the US was losing mightily. Everyone was on the gravy train. No more. Trump is the first president to fight back.

No it was a USA SURRENDER for decades
The US gave up their trade and surrendered it to whoever came in at the cheapest price that's what trade is all about, cheap cheap. The US dug their own hole and jumped in
Trump maybe fighting back BUT he is a lying idiot that will not be able to negotiate himself out of a wet paper bag. Why,
because he is well , wait I am trying to find the proper wording here, " a FCK IDIOT"
Hope this helps

[Lone Star]

. . .
No it was a USA SURRENDER for decades
The US gave up their trade and surrendered it to whoever came in at the cheapest price
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Characterize the cause any way you wish. It happened.

You've admitted that the US leadership was allowing Main Street to get screwed over for decades in trade and that Trump is the first one to fight back (one of the reasons why Trump was elected). Even history and facts prove that.

Once again, you accidentally supported my position.