What about the Amazon

[Doodoo]

"In Bolsonaro’s burning Brazilian Amazon, all our futures are being consumed"

An interesting read

Hope this helps

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/in ... li=AAggNb9

[tamada]

Curiously, the destruction of Brazil's rain forests only becomes an issue when a right-wing nut job becomes president.

I worked in Brazil 15 years ago and back then, while congressman Bolsonaro was still cementing his political future, their environmental laws and regulations were only so much smoke and mirrors, heavy on planning and procedures while doing nothing exceptional or even rudimentary.

In other news, "Some of the most-shared images of the Amazon rainforest fires are old or are not of the Amazon"

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/22/us/d ... index.html

PS. The Amazon isn't in Udon Thani either.

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[tamada]

France and Ireland declare opposition to trade deal over Amazon fires

Brazil’s handling of forest fires set to top agenda of G7 countries at meeting in Biarritz this weekend.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... o-varadkar

Looks like Macron and Varadkar are trying to deflect attention from no-deal Brexit, the backstop and much more important things much closer to home.

[jackspratt]

I would have thought that, if as reported, what is happening in the Amazon at the moment is of far more concern to the world than the minor shenanigans in Europe.

[tamada]

I would have thought that, if as reported, what is happening in the Amazon at the moment is of far more concern to the world than the minor shenanigans in Europe.

Well, if you are one of those professing a new-found awareness of the world's dire environmental situation based on the totally fake, scientifically impossible and otherwise unsubstantiated claims that the Amazon rain forests produce anything between a fifth and 25% of the O2 we breath, then yes, you probably would think that.

[FrazeeDK]

are the fires an issue? Sure but are they the "CRISIS!!!!!" blared by the media and echoed at the G-7? Hell no.... Google Amazon fires and most of the headlines and stories portray it as the Apocalypse!!!! The lungs of earth are being ripped out!!!!

But, a more thoughtful perusal gives you these links:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... -maps.html

NASA says fires a bit less than average:
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/image ... -in-brazil

Even Snopes digs out the nonsense:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/amazo ... fire-2019/

[Lone Star]

are the fires an issue? Sure but are they the "CRISIS!!!!!" blared by the media and echoed at the G-7? Hell no.... Google Amazon fires and most of the headlines and stories portray it as the Apocalypse!!!! The lungs of earth are being ripped out!!!!

But, a more thoughtful perusal gives you these links:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... -maps.html

NASA says fires a bit less than average:
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/image ... -in-brazil

Even Snopes digs out the nonsense:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/amazo ... fire-2019/

Yeah, their nonsense is called ALARMISM.

The Believers have to do something. Their arguments are so unpersuasive that they have to resort to emotional distress to accomplish their mission.

This is why the believers are still struggling to gain any support and traction. They get caught all the time fudging and exaggerating and still don't provide measurable results to all of their proposed "fixes."

[rick]

There are many links, with wildly different claims. The problem is where they get there data from. One link says fires at the 15 year average. But doesn't say that burning has been falling steadily this century. One report says burning 80% up on last year. Most of the major fires are actually along the EDGE of the forest. Burning of ready cleared land tends to be smaller fires. Again hard to verify how much is forest and how much farmland.

More telling is that Bolsonaro's government has cut arrests of illegal loggers by over 95% - So now a free-for all for illegal loggers. Yes, it will take 1000's of years to clear it all at the current rate, but the indigenous people are getting it in the neck currently.

[Zidane]

Amazon... lousy coffee... move on

[Lone Star]

Amazon... lousy coffee... move on

Never drank their coffee, but they make a mean chah keow pbahn!

[FrazeeDK]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshe ... 39bdb15bde

[Lone Star]

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Bolsonaro gives Macron what for!

In response to Macron sticking his nose into Brazil, President Bolsonaro and his staff have been firing back.

The president's Chief of Staff, Onyx Lorenzoni, dismissed Macron. Lorenzoni noted that France failed to prevent significant fire destruction at a UNESCO World Heritage Site, the Notre Dame cathedral, “and he wants to teach us, what?”

The dust up all began when Macron posted a photo of what he claimed was the Amazon fires, but was actually a photo taken by a photographer who died in 2003. Oooops.

Macron then had a press conference at the G7 with Chile's president, but Chile is not a G7 member and the country doesn't overlap or is adjacent to the rain forest.

[saint]

I feel sorry for Macron . I mean not only is he a slimy little creep , he so desperately wants to be a world player , and take over from Merkel as the voice of the E U , yet he cant even sort his domestic problems out ..

[jackspratt]

I feel sorry for Macron . I mean not only is he a slimy little creep , he so desperately wants to be a world player , and take over from Merkel as the voice of the E U , yet he cant even sort his domestic problems out ..

I'd hate to read what you said if you weren't feeling sorry for him.

[choi choi]

https://news.sky.com/story/brazil-amazo ... t-11779465

[tamada]

https://news.sky.com/story/brazil-amazo ... t-11779465

Oh dear... more "lungs of the earth" bullschizzle.

Never mind, it's only Sky News.

[jackspratt]

I feel sorry for Macron . I mean not only is he a slimy little creep , he so desperately wants to be a world player , and take over from Merkel as the voice of the E U , yet he cant even sort his domestic problems out ..

A somewhat contrasting view from The Economist.

AT THE START of this year, a fretful Emmanuel Macron grounded his presidential plane and cleared his diary in order to focus on civil disorder at home. For two months, as he tried to defuse the gilets jaunes (yellow jackets) protests, the French president left Europe only once, shunned global gatherings and ceded the stage to Angela Merkel. Mr Macron’s hopes of stepping into the German chancellor’s shoes as Europe’s leader looked then to be over.

Six months later, the turnaround is startling. For three days starting on August 24th Mr Macron presided over the G7 summit in the seaside resort of Biarritz, an event many expected to be wrecked by conflict and theatrics. Instead, the French host managed to avert disaster, keep America’s Donald Trump happy, ease trans-Atlantic tensions over a French tech tax and win a pledge from Mr Trump to talk to Iran’s President Hassan Rouhani. He also mobilised a bit of aid for fires in the Amazon, though that fell through in a spat with Jair Bolsonaro, Brazil’s president. Mr Trump declared the summit to be “truly successful”, claimed that “nobody wanted to leave” and called Mr Macron a “spectacular leader”.

https://www.economist.com/europe/2019/0 ... p/302750/n