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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by Teacher Dan » January 8, 2022, 12:37 am

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^ I was thinking more like circle jerk.
No that's what it turns into if we reply to people like you......


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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by Teacher Dan » January 8, 2022, 1:30 am

If this passes, we might as well start the civil war now as our nation is done and the experiment of our founding fathers will have failed. I hope Sinema, Manchin, and Tester hold out on this as if they don't the republic is over.
'But with their ambitious spending plans blocked, Democrats are pivoting in the new year to a renewed effort to pass something that is likely even dearer to the hearts of their left-wing base: changing voting laws to make it easier for Democrats to win elections. They are tying the “nuclear option” on the filibuster and passage of voting bills to their attempt to turn the one-year anniversary of the Jan. 6 Capitol riot into a festival aimed at demonizing all Republicans as “insurrectionist” traitors who present a threat to democracy.

With their cheering section in the corporate media treating “Insurrection Day” observances as if it were a new national holiday and more important than 9/11, they’ve created more leverage that could shift their two holdouts. If it does, that would allow Vice President Kamala Harris’ tie-breaking vote to transform the electoral landscape in a manner that will end federalism for all intents and purposes and give federal bureaucrats unprecedented power to help Democrats win elections.

Taken as a whole, the bill would make every future election resemble the chaos that affected the 2020 pandemic voting, removing guardrails that ensure fairness. Even if 2020 didn’t produce a fraudulent result, the election still undermined the credibility of the system (with Big Tech internet companies and the corporate media tilting the election against former President Donald Trump).'
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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by Kenr6583 » January 8, 2022, 2:29 am

All these far right radicals can do is threaten civil war if they don’t get their way on something. What makes them think they would actually win if there was one? A true sign of ignorance.

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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by jai yen yen » January 8, 2022, 3:28 am

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^ Do you believe the events of 12 months ago at the Capitol to be "Politics as usual"?

I guess Biden was just reminding those many cult members in the US, the vast majority of whom are Republicans, that it definitely wasn't.
I will try to make it easy for you to understand, politicians everywhere love to point out the oppositions faults whether they be true or not and also try there best to defeat any progress for the party in power even though it does not serve the best interests of the people or country. Politics as usual.

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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by jai yen yen » January 8, 2022, 3:31 am

Kenr6583 wrote:
January 8, 2022, 2:29 am
All these far right radicals can do is threaten civil war if they don’t get their way on something. What makes them think they would actually win if there was one? A true sign of ignorance.
You are simply showing your ignorance by your statement, in reality there are extremists on both sides that only harm the goals of the parties they supposedly represent.

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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by Kenr6583 » January 8, 2022, 3:48 am

jai yen yen wrote:
January 8, 2022, 3:31 am
Kenr6583 wrote:
January 8, 2022, 2:29 am
All these far right radicals can do is threaten civil war if they don’t get their way on something. What makes them think they would actually win if there was one? A true sign of ignorance.
You are simply showing your ignorance by your statement, in reality there are extremists on both sides that only harm the goals of the parties they supposedly represent.
Actually you are showing your ignorance, because the only individuals threatening with the words “civil war” and promoting it are the ones on the far right.

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Post by papafarang » January 8, 2022, 6:33 am

Kenr6583 wrote:
January 8, 2022, 3:48 am
jai yen yen wrote:
January 8, 2022, 3:31 am
Kenr6583 wrote:
January 8, 2022, 2:29 am
All these far right radicals can do is threaten civil war if they don’t get their way on something. What makes them think they would actually win if there was one? A true sign of ignorance.
You are simply showing your ignorance by your statement, in reality there are extremists on both sides that only harm the goals of the parties they supposedly represent.
Actually you are showing your ignorance, because the only individuals threatening with the words “civil war” are the ones on the far right.
true you don't see lefties wandering the streets carrying guns, anyone know of left wing militias dressing up and pretending their soldiers ? . antifa is a joke, a bogy man dreamed up by the far right, their nothing, a bunch of nobodies and no threat to anybody.
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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by Declan MacPherson » January 8, 2022, 6:38 am

jai yen yen wrote:
January 8, 2022, 3:31 am
Kenr6583 wrote:
January 8, 2022, 2:29 am
All these far right radicals can do is threaten civil war if they don’t get their way on something. What makes them think they would actually win if there was one? A true sign of ignorance.
You are simply showing your ignorance by your statement, in reality there are extremists on both sides that only harm the goals of the parties they supposedly represent.
Selective outrage is common on the Left, JYY. I am not telling you anything that you do not already know.

They selectively ignore the "peaceful protests" of BLM and Antifa in 2020 that resulted in their mobs causing over ONE BILLION dollars in damage in cities across America. In the city of Minneapolis alone, these Leftist mobs damaged or destroyed over 1,500 businesses or buildings in 2020. Over 700 police officers were injured in these riots and over a two dozen people were killed. All admitted Marxists quick to voice their position as revolting against the government and multiple attacks on federal buildings and federal officers across the nation.

The same politicians who spread their propaganda and lies regarding J6 were busy helping to bond out BLM and Antifa rioters all during 2020 and did not condemn the actions of their voting base.

There have been at least 8 assaults by the Left over the years on government buildings attacking what the Democrat Communists call "a democracy."

https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/07/8- ... democracy/
8 Times Left-Wing Protesters Broke Into Government Buildings And Assaulted Democracy
Left-wing demonstrators have long made a habit of attacking, infiltrating, and occupying government buildings.
There was no outrage by Democrat Communist politicians regarding these 8 breaches. They were either silent or condoning it as a right to protest.

But never mind all that.

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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by Kenr6583 » January 8, 2022, 6:49 am

Poor Cholla, I have stated previously that anyone walking around the streets with an AR-15 or their pistol on their hips are idiots. But the only ones, like yourself, threatening a “civil war” are the far-right extremists. You and your sidekick are the ones promoting it on this thread. You and your sidekick are so far out in right field that no one can even see you.
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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by Declan MacPherson » January 8, 2022, 6:53 am

But the only ones, like yourself, threatening a “civil war” are the far-right extremists.
That is a lie. I have never threatened civil war.

Americans are in the midst of a "cold civil war", and they are protesting against unconstitutional federal government overreach (which is their right). It could very well result in a shooting civil war, but I have never promoted or threatened any such thing. You are a liar.
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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by Kenr6583 » January 8, 2022, 7:17 am

You and your sidekick post about it.

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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/0 ... s-monthly/
JUST IN: Court REJECTS FDA Request to Release Vaccine FOIA Documents Over the Next 55 Years – Orders Agency to Turn Over Tens of Thousands of Pfizer Docs Monthly

Probably will fight it all the way. The FDA and Pfizer cannot afford for the truth to completely escape quickly.
thanks to Texas Northern District Judge Mark Pittman’s ruling, the agency will be forking those likely damning records over within the next few months, at a rate of 55,000 every 30 days.

The first deadline, which is on January 31st, requires the FDA to turn over 12,000 pages, with the rest coming monthly after that.
All of a sudden the Left is embracing big pharma and federal agencies.

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https://beckernews.com/medical-experts- ... ion-43621/
Medical Experts Reveal the Scientific Reason Why Covid Vaccines Cannot ‘Stop the Spread’ or Prevent Infection
The article then states why these mRNA shots are incapable of stopping infection and transmission of Covid-19.

“A fundamental mistake underlying the development of the COVID-19 vaccines was to neglect the functional distinction between the two major categories of antibodies which the body produces in order to protect itself from pathogenic microbes,” the doctors note.

“The first category (secretory IgA) is produced by immune cells (lymphocytes) which are located directly underneath the mucous membranes that line the respiratory and intestinal tract,” they point out. “The antibodies produced by these lymphocytes are secreted through and to the surface of the mucous membranes. These antibodies are thus on site to meet air-borne viruses, and they may be able to prevent viral binding and infection of the cells.”

“The second category of antibodies (IgG and circulating IgA) occur in the bloodstream,” the doctors go on. “These antibodies protect the internal organs of the body from infectious agents that try to spread via the bloodstream.”

“Vaccines that are injected into the muscle – i.e., the interior of the body – will only induce IgG and circulating IgA, not secretory IgA. Such antibodies cannot and will not effectively protect the mucous membranes from infection by SARS-CoV-2,” the article continues. “Thus, the currently observed ‘breakthrough infections’ among vaccinated individuals merely confirm the fundamental design flaws of the vaccines.”

“Measurements of antibodies in the blood can never yield any information on the true status of immunity against infection of the respiratory tract,” they add. “The inability of vaccine-induced antibodies to prevent coronavirus infections has been reported in recent scientific publications.”

In other words, there was never a time when any scientist could claim these “vaccines” could “prevent transmission” based on any empirical evidence. They either lied about claiming they knew that they could stop transmission or they deliberately designed the “vaccines” to be vectors for virus transmission in order to justify universal vaccine mandates.
Therefore, vaccine mandates and vaccine passports are irrelevant from a public policy standpoint. They do nothing but balkanize society, violate individuals’ health rights, and introduce more long-term medical unknowns for Americans who are not significantly at-risk from Covid-19 (such as those who are young or have natural immunity).
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https://justthenews.com/government/cour ... -6-protest
Woman claims Capitol police beat her on video at Jan. 6 protest
Newsmax's Greg Kelly interviewed White and McBride last week. He first aired footage that he says shows White telling protestors at the Capitol that day to stop and leave.

She told Kelly that she expected Jan. 6 to "just be another Trump rally." White became emotional as she described the experience as "traumatic."

"We certainly have a case for police brutality against the officer and his police department," McBride said. "Ms. White was forced into that entrance. She did nothing wrong. Her hands were down. The only time she put her hands up was in a defensive posture because she was being pulverized. Watch that video. It is indisputable evidence."

"By some miracle of God, Victoria White survived, and she is going to tell her tale. She is going to have her day in court, and the officer that brutally beat her will be held accountable," McBride added.
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https://amgreatness.com/2022/01/06/mask ... ment-lies/
Masks, Vaccines, and Government Lies
Trust in government and government-sponsored edicts is fast declining because of federal, state, and local pronouncements on the Chinese flu, vaccines, masks, and lockdowns. The federal government has been as stubborn as an ox against telling the truth—and 2021 was, perhaps appropriately, the year of the ox in China.
Masks do not work. The vaccines do not work. The boosters do not work. The lockdowns do not work.

Public health bureaucrats worldwide have lied, flip-flopped and covered up with more lies.

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https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/s ... t-n1547486
Has the NYT Picked CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky to Be the Scapegoat?

Anybody but Saint Fauci.
During the Trump presidency, I nicknamed Maggie Haberman from the New York Times “Bat Signal.” It seemed that every day at about 4:30 in the afternoon she would toss out a nugget, usually anonymously sourced. That nugget would then drive the news cycle for the next 24 hours. As it turns out, the New York Times functions to drive the news cycle more generally. Thursday morning, the Gray Lady made it clear CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky is in trouble.

It is kind of spectacular, really. The Times appears to be engaging in a wee bit of misogyny to cover for Dr. Anthony Fauci and Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy regarding the new CDC guidance on Covid quarantines. Shortly after Christmas, Walensky announced a shortening of quarantine for asymptomatic individuals to five days with masking for another five. According to the Times’ anonymous sources, she communicated the change to the other top health officials before it was communicated to the public by the CDC.
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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by jackspratt » January 8, 2022, 9:16 am

Teacher Dan wrote:
January 8, 2022, 12:37 am
jackspratt wrote:
January 7, 2022, 9:13 pm
^ I was thinking more like circle jerk.
No that's what it turns into if we reply to people like you......
Wait a minute ........ I'm on your foes list. :roll:

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Post by GT93 » January 8, 2022, 11:55 am

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Teacher Dan » January 8, 2022, 12:08 pm

Declan MacPherson wrote:
January 8, 2022, 8:48 am
* * *

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/0 ... s-monthly/
JUST IN: Court REJECTS FDA Request to Release Vaccine FOIA Documents Over the Next 55 Years – Orders Agency to Turn Over Tens of Thousands of Pfizer Docs Monthly

Probably will fight it all the way. The FDA and Pfizer cannot afford for the truth to completely escape quickly.
thanks to Texas Northern District Judge Mark Pittman’s ruling, the agency will be forking those likely damning records over within the next few months, at a rate of 55,000 every 30 days.

The first deadline, which is on January 31st, requires the FDA to turn over 12,000 pages, with the rest coming monthly after that.
All of a sudden the Left is embracing big pharma and federal agencies.

* * *

https://beckernews.com/medical-experts- ... ion-43621/
Medical Experts Reveal the Scientific Reason Why Covid Vaccines Cannot ‘Stop the Spread’ or Prevent Infection
The article then states why these mRNA shots are incapable of stopping infection and transmission of Covid-19.

“A fundamental mistake underlying the development of the COVID-19 vaccines was to neglect the functional distinction between the two major categories of antibodies which the body produces in order to protect itself from pathogenic microbes,” the doctors note.

“The first category (secretory IgA) is produced by immune cells (lymphocytes) which are located directly underneath the mucous membranes that line the respiratory and intestinal tract,” they point out. “The antibodies produced by these lymphocytes are secreted through and to the surface of the mucous membranes. These antibodies are thus on site to meet air-borne viruses, and they may be able to prevent viral binding and infection of the cells.”

“The second category of antibodies (IgG and circulating IgA) occur in the bloodstream,” the doctors go on. “These antibodies protect the internal organs of the body from infectious agents that try to spread via the bloodstream.”

“Vaccines that are injected into the muscle – i.e., the interior of the body – will only induce IgG and circulating IgA, not secretory IgA. Such antibodies cannot and will not effectively protect the mucous membranes from infection by SARS-CoV-2,” the article continues. “Thus, the currently observed ‘breakthrough infections’ among vaccinated individuals merely confirm the fundamental design flaws of the vaccines.”

“Measurements of antibodies in the blood can never yield any information on the true status of immunity against infection of the respiratory tract,” they add. “The inability of vaccine-induced antibodies to prevent coronavirus infections has been reported in recent scientific publications.”

In other words, there was never a time when any scientist could claim these “vaccines” could “prevent transmission” based on any empirical evidence. They either lied about claiming they knew that they could stop transmission or they deliberately designed the “vaccines” to be vectors for virus transmission in order to justify universal vaccine mandates.
Therefore, vaccine mandates and vaccine passports are irrelevant from a public policy standpoint. They do nothing but balkanize society, violate individuals’ health rights, and introduce more long-term medical unknowns for Americans who are not significantly at-risk from Covid-19 (such as those who are young or have natural immunity).

* * *

https://amgreatness.com/2022/01/06/mask ... ment-lies/
Masks, Vaccines, and Government Lies
Trust in government and government-sponsored edicts is fast declining because of federal, state, and local pronouncements on the Chinese flu, vaccines, masks, and lockdowns. The federal government has been as stubborn as an ox against telling the truth—and 2021 was, perhaps appropriately, the year of the ox in China.
Masks do not work. The vaccines do not work. The boosters do not work. The lockdowns do not work.

Public health bureaucrats worldwide have lied, flip-flopped and covered up with more lies.


1. I posted something about this and was surprised by the ruling but you're right they'll continue to fight it--I'm betting our corrupt DOJ will get involved even pleading their case.

2. That's quite interesting about the vaccines as you'd think that ANYONE with knowledge in epidemiology would know that so it can hardly have been an accident or oversight UNLESS our medical expertise has been dumbed down that much over the past 20 years, which is also scary. Another interesting thing from one that I posted is that the danger from all or most (I can't find if the Sino's use it or not) of these vaccines including J&J and AZ even as well as the mRNA's is that they ALL use the spike protein and THAT is why they all have coagulation problems--blood clots.

3. Masks have never worked and only morons and sheep ever thought otherwise--I've argued against them from the start and there USED to be a lot of studies out there that confirmed it but slowly but surely they started disappearing and you couldn't find them anymore--kind of like how China disappeared all that early data on the Wu Flu.
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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by Teacher Dan » January 8, 2022, 12:17 pm

Declan MacPherson wrote:
January 7, 2022, 1:41 pm
glalt wrote:
January 7, 2022, 9:08 am
I for one, am disgusted with the presidents latest speech. Why does he want to resurrect the White house debacle? I thought his idea was to unite the people and here he is causing more hate. He must be worried about the next election and is starting the dirty political campaign already.
Included in their propaganda is falsely labeling the United States a democracy when it is a republic. This is the second arm of their propaganda exercise that accuses Republicans and Conservatives of "destroying democracy." This effort is meant to push Americans to call for "a democracy", which is antithetical to the United States. Democrat Communists WANT a pure democracy and to crush the republic, the Constitution, free enterprise and individual liberty. They want federal control over everything (especially elections), which includes levers of power that will keep them in office forever.
.....
There will be more of this and probably worse from Democrat Communists between now and November elections. Expect it.
This is a very good point and something the left have been pushing for years--not just in the US even with those 'world democracy rankings'. There are ZERO democracies in the world today--not one and to the best of my knowledge the last one was Ancient Greece. The closest to a democracy today is likely Switzerland and there is no other country close. Yet the left always tout this--you hear it all over the world in their news stories, 'an assault on democracy,' 'to protect our democracy,' 'our democracy is in peril,' to the point that no one questions it any longer and says 'what democracy? Where?' They've even been pushing the sheep and mushrooms to accept socialism by calling it 'democratic socialism' as if that somehow makes it all better--I can't recall who said it but they said a nation can only become socialist or communist by voting for it, but the only way out of it is war.
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Post by tamada » January 8, 2022, 12:23 pm

Declan MacPherson wrote:
January 8, 2022, 6:53 am
But the only ones, like yourself, threatening a “civil war” are the far-right extremists.
That is a lie. I have never threatened civil war.

Americans are in the midst of a "cold civil war", and they are protesting against unconstitutional federal government overreach (which is their right). It could very well result in a shooting civil war, but I have never promoted or threatened any such thing. You are a liar.
Oh looky here! The novel construct of a "cold civil war" has just been added to the top-loader washing machine of America's existential angst (Oodorn branch).

Expect an extended rinse (and repeat) cycle.
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Post by Kenr6583 » January 8, 2022, 12:29 pm

Well it is January.

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Post by tamada » January 8, 2022, 12:31 pm

Teacher Dan wrote:
January 8, 2022, 12:17 pm
Declan MacPherson wrote:
January 7, 2022, 1:41 pm
glalt wrote:
January 7, 2022, 9:08 am
I for one, am disgusted with the presidents latest speech. Why does he want to resurrect the White house debacle? I thought his idea was to unite the people and here he is causing more hate. He must be worried about the next election and is starting the dirty political campaign already.
Included in their propaganda is falsely labeling the United States a democracy when it is a republic. This is the second arm of their propaganda exercise that accuses Republicans and Conservatives of "destroying democracy." This effort is meant to push Americans to call for "a democracy", which is antithetical to the United States. Democrat Communists WANT a pure democracy and to crush the republic, the Constitution, free enterprise and individual liberty. They want federal control over everything (especially elections), which includes levers of power that will keep them in office forever.
.....
There will be more of this and probably worse from Democrat Communists between now and November elections. Expect it.
This is a very good point and something the left have been pushing for years--not just in the US even with those 'world democracy rankings'. There are ZERO democracies in the world today--not one and to the best of my knowledge the last one was Ancient Greece. The closest to a democracy today is likely Switzerland and there is no other country close. Yet the left always tout this--you hear it all over the world in their news stories, 'an assault on democracy,' 'to protect our democracy,' 'our democracy is in peril,' to the point that no one questions it any longer and says 'what democracy? Where?' They've even been pushing the sheep and mushrooms to accept socialism by calling it 'democratic socialism' as if that somehow makes it all better--I can't recall who said it but they said a nation can only become socialist or communist by voting for it, but the only way out of it is war.
And the ostriches? You appear to have already forgotten about them.
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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by Declan MacPherson » January 8, 2022, 12:52 pm

Teacher Dan wrote:
January 8, 2022, 12:17 pm
I can't recall who said it but they said a nation can only become socialist or communist by voting for it, but the only way out of it is war.
Yes, once citizens vote away their Liberty, the regime in power will never allow them to take it back. Things will be put in place to that will prevent the citizens from a do-over.
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