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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by jackspratt » June 7, 2021, 8:20 pm

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I wasn't asking you to relitigate the entire history. I was asking how you came to your opinion.
Which would require:
......re-litigating the entire disputed history of who arrived where, and when.
(Your omission is noted).

This dance is over.

Feel free to get back on topic.



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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Udon Map » June 7, 2021, 9:09 pm

jackspratt wrote:
June 7, 2021, 8:20 pm
Udon Map wrote:
June 7, 2021, 6:50 pm
I wasn't asking you to relitigate the entire history. I was asking how you came to your opinion.
Which would require:
......re-litigating the entire disputed history of who arrived where, and when.
No, it wouldn't. I'm not asking you to justify your view, I'm asking what it is and how you got to it.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Udon Map » June 9, 2021, 12:08 am

The 1939 Palestine Football Team. Note the stylized Star of David on their uniform shirts.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by FrazeeDK » June 9, 2021, 3:54 pm

isn't it a bit ironic that the subject of this string, "How Does a State Built on Terrorism Assume International Credibility can apply quite neatly to the entire Palestinian Liberation Organization, the current Palestinian Authority and of course Hamas..
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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by jackspratt » June 9, 2021, 4:50 pm

Could well do ...... but of course, none of them have a state.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Declan MacPherson » June 9, 2021, 5:33 pm

FrazeeDK wrote:
June 9, 2021, 3:54 pm
isn't it a bit ironic that the subject of this string, "How Does a State Built on Terrorism Assume International Credibility can apply quite neatly to the entire Palestinian Liberation Organization, the current Palestinian Authority and of course Hamas..
agree . yes . when I first saw the subject I thought about Hamas and Palestinians .
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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by jackspratt » June 9, 2021, 7:10 pm

History - or may be geography - not your long suit then Rico?

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Udon Map » June 9, 2021, 10:24 pm

jackspratt wrote:
June 9, 2021, 4:50 pm
Could well do ...... but of course, none of them have a state.
True, but the rest applies. They are built on terrorism and have international credibility.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by jackspratt » June 10, 2021, 8:50 am

Udon Map wrote:
June 9, 2021, 10:24 pm
jackspratt wrote:
June 9, 2021, 4:50 pm
Could well do ...... but of course, none of them have a state.
True, but the rest applies. They are built on terrorism and have international credibility.
They have no doubt noted it was successful leading up to 1948.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Udon Map » June 10, 2021, 9:16 am

jackspratt wrote:
June 10, 2021, 8:50 am
Udon Map wrote:
June 9, 2021, 10:24 pm
jackspratt wrote:
June 9, 2021, 4:50 pm
Could well do ...... but of course, none of them have a state.
True, but the rest applies. They are built on terrorism and have international credibility.
They have no doubt noted it was successful leading up to 1948.
As you know, I have never suggested that you are anti-Semitic, and I do not do so now. I can see, however, how others might come to that conclusion.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by jackspratt » June 10, 2021, 9:43 am

Udon Map wrote:
June 10, 2021, 9:16 am
jackspratt wrote:
June 10, 2021, 8:50 am
Udon Map wrote:
June 9, 2021, 10:24 pm
jackspratt wrote:
June 9, 2021, 4:50 pm
Could well do ...... but of course, none of them have a state.
True, but the rest applies. They are built on terrorism and have international credibility.
They have no doubt noted it was successful leading up to 1948.
As you know, I have never suggested that you are anti-Semitic, and I do not do so now. I can see, however, how others might come to that conclusion.
The "others" you speak of would appear to ignorant as to the meaning of "anti-Semitic", but it is a convenient blunt instrument to try and silence argument.

I am not anti-Semitic, and for Alex's benefit, neither am I "racist". Nothing I have written here, or elsewhere on the Forum, would show otherwise.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Udon Map » June 10, 2021, 6:01 pm

jackspratt wrote:
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The "others" you speak of would appear to ignorant as to the meaning of "anti-Semitic", but it is a convenient blunt instrument to try and silence argument.
While not technically correct from an etymological perspective, "Anti-Semitic" is generally taken to mean anti-Jew in common modern parlance.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by jackspratt » June 10, 2021, 6:07 pm

Just to be clear, my being anti-Israel (in some respects) does not mean I am anti-Jew.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by AlexO » June 10, 2021, 7:44 pm

What a load of crap Pratt.
I don't like Israelis but Jews are ok as long as they dont live in their homeland. Racist and even worse you cannot even recognise it.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Udon Map » June 10, 2021, 8:13 pm

jackspratt wrote:
June 10, 2021, 6:07 pm
Just to be clear, my being anti-Israel (in some respects) does not mean I am anti-Jew.
And I'm interested in your opinion/feelings here, -- your "being anti-Israel (in some respects) does not mean [you are] anti-Jew." what they are and how you come to them, but you decline to engage in a civil exchange of ideas and thoughts about them.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by jackspratt » June 10, 2021, 8:35 pm

AlexO wrote:
June 10, 2021, 7:44 pm
What a load of crap Pratt.
I don't like Israelis but Jews are ok as long as they dont live in their homeland. Racist and even worse you cannot even recognise it.
You are becoming a caricature Alex.

FMD - you can't even distinguish the difference between (the state of) Israel, and the people who live there, Israelis.

Have you taken the time yet to take even a basic look at the definition of "racist" ...... and then move on to "anti-Semitism".
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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by jackspratt » June 10, 2021, 8:41 pm

Udon Map wrote:
June 10, 2021, 8:13 pm
jackspratt wrote:
June 10, 2021, 6:07 pm
Just to be clear, my being anti-Israel (in some respects) does not mean I am anti-Jew.
And I'm interested in your opinion/feelings here, -- your "being anti-Israel (in some respects) does not mean [you are] anti-Jew." what they are and how you come to them, but you decline to engage in a civil exchange of ideas and thoughts about them.
All my exchanges on this thread have been civil.

I have chosen to stick to the topic ...... but you have wandered off on several occassions.

Head down whatever off-topic rabbit hole you wish UM, but I am not going to follow you there.

Start a new topic if you wish.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Udon Map » June 10, 2021, 9:02 pm

jackspratt wrote:
June 10, 2021, 8:41 pm
Udon Map wrote:
June 10, 2021, 8:13 pm
jackspratt wrote:
June 10, 2021, 6:07 pm
Just to be clear, my being anti-Israel (in some respects) does not mean I am anti-Jew.
And I'm interested in your opinion/feelings here, -- your "being anti-Israel (in some respects) does not mean [you are] anti-Jew." what they are and how you come to them, but you decline to engage in a civil exchange of ideas and thoughts about them.
All my exchanges on this thread have been civil.
Certainly the ones with me have been.
jackspratt wrote:
June 10, 2021, 8:41 pm
I have chosen to stick to the topic ...... but you are wandering off.
Not at all. The history of the creation of Israel ("a state built on terrorism") can hardly be divorced from the history of the Jews, given that Israel was created for the specific purpose of providing a country/homeland for Jews.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by jackspratt » June 10, 2021, 9:11 pm

AlexO wrote:
May 15, 2021, 11:59 pm
Sick of arguing with you. Last post on the subject, will bow to most of the UM members who recognise you as a racist. Keep trying to insult me, just makes you look worse. Bye Pratt.
19 posts from you later, here we are. :?

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