Which would require:
(Your omission is noted).......re-litigating the entire disputed history of who arrived where, and when.
This dance is over.
Feel free to get back on topic.
Which would require:
(Your omission is noted).......re-litigating the entire disputed history of who arrived where, and when.
No, it wouldn't. I'm not asking you to justify your view, I'm asking what it is and how you got to it.jackspratt wrote: ↑June 7, 2021, 8:20 pmWhich would require:
......re-litigating the entire disputed history of who arrived where, and when.
agree . yes . when I first saw the subject I thought about Hamas and Palestinians .
True, but the rest applies. They are built on terrorism and have international credibility.jackspratt wrote: ↑June 9, 2021, 4:50 pmCould well do ...... but of course, none of them have a state.
They have no doubt noted it was successful leading up to 1948.Udon Map wrote: ↑June 9, 2021, 10:24 pmTrue, but the rest applies. They are built on terrorism and have international credibility.jackspratt wrote: ↑June 9, 2021, 4:50 pmCould well do ...... but of course, none of them have a state.
As you know, I have never suggested that you are anti-Semitic, and I do not do so now. I can see, however, how others might come to that conclusion.jackspratt wrote: ↑June 10, 2021, 8:50 amThey have no doubt noted it was successful leading up to 1948.Udon Map wrote: ↑June 9, 2021, 10:24 pmTrue, but the rest applies. They are built on terrorism and have international credibility.jackspratt wrote: ↑June 9, 2021, 4:50 pmCould well do ...... but of course, none of them have a state.
The "others" you speak of would appear to ignorant as to the meaning of "anti-Semitic", but it is a convenient blunt instrument to try and silence argument.Udon Map wrote: ↑June 10, 2021, 9:16 amAs you know, I have never suggested that you are anti-Semitic, and I do not do so now. I can see, however, how others might come to that conclusion.jackspratt wrote: ↑June 10, 2021, 8:50 amThey have no doubt noted it was successful leading up to 1948.Udon Map wrote: ↑June 9, 2021, 10:24 pmTrue, but the rest applies. They are built on terrorism and have international credibility.jackspratt wrote: ↑June 9, 2021, 4:50 pmCould well do ...... but of course, none of them have a state.
While not technically correct from an etymological perspective, "Anti-Semitic" is generally taken to mean anti-Jew in common modern parlance.jackspratt wrote: ↑June 10, 2021, 9:43 amThe "others" you speak of would appear to ignorant as to the meaning of "anti-Semitic", but it is a convenient blunt instrument to try and silence argument.
And I'm interested in your opinion/feelings here, -- your "being anti-Israel (in some respects) does not mean [you are] anti-Jew." what they are and how you come to them, but you decline to engage in a civil exchange of ideas and thoughts about them.jackspratt wrote: ↑June 10, 2021, 6:07 pmJust to be clear, my being anti-Israel (in some respects) does not mean I am anti-Jew.
You are becoming a caricature Alex.
All my exchanges on this thread have been civil.Udon Map wrote: ↑June 10, 2021, 8:13 pmAnd I'm interested in your opinion/feelings here, -- your "being anti-Israel (in some respects) does not mean [you are] anti-Jew." what they are and how you come to them, but you decline to engage in a civil exchange of ideas and thoughts about them.jackspratt wrote: ↑June 10, 2021, 6:07 pmJust to be clear, my being anti-Israel (in some respects) does not mean I am anti-Jew.
Certainly the ones with me have been.jackspratt wrote: ↑June 10, 2021, 8:41 pmAll my exchanges on this thread have been civil.Udon Map wrote: ↑June 10, 2021, 8:13 pmAnd I'm interested in your opinion/feelings here, -- your "being anti-Israel (in some respects) does not mean [you are] anti-Jew." what they are and how you come to them, but you decline to engage in a civil exchange of ideas and thoughts about them.jackspratt wrote: ↑June 10, 2021, 6:07 pmJust to be clear, my being anti-Israel (in some respects) does not mean I am anti-Jew.
Not at all. The history of the creation of Israel ("a state built on terrorism") can hardly be divorced from the history of the Jews, given that Israel was created for the specific purpose of providing a country/homeland for Jews.jackspratt wrote: ↑June 10, 2021, 8:41 pmI have chosen to stick to the topic ...... but you are wandering off.