gypsum

[Dakoda]

Where can I get the plastic tape for gypsum joint plastering Have checked the normal places, like Global, Home Pro, Tool Pro, no luck, only paper.

I know my ceiling guy used some, but now I see why he was cheap with it, and every room has seams that show.

HELP

and don't tell me to call him back, think three tries is enough

[papaguido]

Can't help...but if you find it, please post the info I have a project coming up

[fussychunk]

Is there any of the fibreglass tape for plastering available in Udon? Or shall i bring my own from the UK when i come over next...? I havnt seen the plastic tape here in the UK

[Dakoda]

Can't help...but if you find it, please post the info I have a project coming up

Will do, need to call my dependable electrician tomorrow. Now if I can get the wife to translate, maybe find some, else it might be a week, before I see him. Hate to think it came from BKK

[Dakoda]

Is there any of the fibreglass tape for plastering available in Udon? Or shall i bring my own from the UK when i come over next...? I havnt seen the plastic tape here in the UK

yes, think you are right, fiberglass. When you coming If you bring enough, might be able to make a killing.

[Doc]

I know my ceiling guy used some, but now I see why he was cheap with it, and every room has seams that show.

A good drywaller doesn't need fiberglass tape. The paper tape is adequate if the foundation is firm and there isn't any shifting.

I can do it with just paper, and guarantee the job - but you can't afford me.

[Dakoda]

I know my ceiling guy used some, but now I see why he was cheap with it, and every room has seams that show.

A good drywaller doesn't need fiberglass tape. The paper tape is adequate if the foundation is firm and there isn't any shifting.

I can do it with just paper, and guarantee the job - but you can't afford me.

I always like my foundation's firm, but a little shifting, sometimes can be fun

Doc, with paper tape disappearing in the 60's, where would a young guy get this kind of experience

[Dakoda]

Ok, the source is BKK. Wife called electrician, then called the guy that did the ceiling, he says he orders from BKK, wife ask him to sell a roll, so he will bring it over tomorrow. When asked why I wanted it, wife said "your work no-good". Maybe when he looks at his workers work, he will give me a roll.


So if anyone needs fiberglass tape, must be ordered from BKK.

[papaguido]

Thanks for the info

[Dakoda]

Got my roll of tape today. Cost 245 baht. GF (wife ?) of contractor came, said really bad work. Will have someone come to fix ! So for the fourth time, (counts the install, so really the third) they are coming to fix, wonder if they will use fiberglass tape (no chance in using mine). If not, its not a fix and they can leave.

[laphanphon]

the drywall/gypsom here is not bevelled, so a bit harder to work with, had paper tape, and you can see every seam.

OK, IMPORTANT, if you haven't put up gypsom yet or plan to, be advised. the termites will eat the paper on both sides which basically hold everything together and i will fall if used for ceiling. this i know from experience and expect what hasn't fallen yet to fall eventually. i live in rice paddy land, but don't think you are safe in the city, as another forumite had the same problem and does live in town. it will give you, or did me, a bit of a warning before falling. such as paint and dust on the floor. was relaxing in bed, sleeping or almost when bang, heard crash. didn't bother getting up to investigate, ex wife was concerned, i just said, ceiling caved in, don't bother. this was outside in carport thing, which was enclosed and used as sitting area. did bounce of wood table out there but no real damage. i didn't replace it, as i don't look up anyway. the main house is tiles, but addition to play room and kitchen are drywall, plus only half of outside fell, still waiting for rest to come down. oh well, they do sell alternative material to gypsom/drywall, at globel. about same size and weight, not sure about price.

[Dakoda]

Never seen a problem. But I also plan/use an exterminator Have had stacks of wood all around the yard for over a year, (they keep moving) seen nothing. Thai neighborhood places are all wood. Think I will be dead before I have that problem. But I am also often WRONG


Also every new house I have looked at in the area, has used sheetrock, the only thing different I did was use ALL Green board

LA, are you sure it wasn't just the HUMIDITY Or you saw them leaving

[fussychunk]

This is getting an interesting thread for me as i am currently looking at insalling a ceiling in the Udon home. What is the standard construction of a Thai ceiling? Do they put in additional roof trusses to make the loft area load bearing? What is the average price per square meter for a ceiling......Finished and plastered?

Cheers

Fussy

[arjay]

LA and Dakoda, I had termite problems in my house in Phuket a couple of years back. I would advise everyone not to under-estimate the little blighters and to have a professional pest control company treat your house on a regular basis (yearly contracts) as a matter of routine.

They had gone up inside the yellow plastic tube carrying the the electric cable, and then split up into 3 clear trails, heading in different directions out across the ceiling. As LA said they eat the paper either side of the ceiling board. The ceiling board then starts to distort and break up. (They love to eat paper and wood).

Initially I thought rain water was getting in and causing problems to the ceiling board, until a local cleaning lady recognised the signs as termites. I then got a professional pest control company in, who sprayed the source - underneath the house and wiped them out at base. I had to have the whole living room ceiling replaced though. They also got into the front door frame and ate their way up through that.

I've seen them in a number of drinking establishments in Udon and have pointed them out to the owners/tenants.

It's fairly easy to spot their dark brown thin trails of like caked soil in such places as under the house, around the base of walls and often in corners or cracks in internal walls. Or if they are well advanced higher up, like along the cracks in or between walls and ceilings!

Be warned - don't under-estimate these pests. They'll travel up in service ducts, conduits and the like, as well as any cracks in walls, or of course through timber. (oops nearly missed the 's' out of pests!!)

[arjay]

Fussychunk, sorry to appear to ignore your post. Thought I'd leave that to an appropriate expert.

[Though from my very limited experience, in the houses I've seen they seem to use suspended ceilings, suspended from the metal roof trusses/girders etc, by wires, so there isn't anywhere to walk up there. But as I say that's only my very limited experience from my and a couple of other houses I've looked in.]

[laphanphon]

yes, definitely termites, saw them at work, and of course ofterwards, that brown muck. they are amazing. TO PREVENT THEM, SIMPLY DON'T USE ANY WOOD IN HOUSE. they have attacked almost every piece of wood. i have replace, rear door, complete front door w/accompaning windows, the west side of house window, and they are working on bedroom doors and east side of wood installments, although i have slowed their progess w/pesticide. the wood trim around top of house, is held together only by paint, the rest looks like a termite highway system. i even came home from vacation one time and found a bag of brown muck uder kitchen counter and took a second to realize it WAS a large package of tissue paper, 12 rolls, mostly gone they bypass some things and munch on others. don't think height will protect you. they went for the roof trim first, which is 3 meters off the ground and was noticed after house painted, they leave a noticable chemical trail up the exterior wall. as i ask what it was, told termites, and once again amazing at construction practices here. why would you build with any wood if a problem. i don't buy anything wood anymore, well, nothing for construction, or anything expensive.

[arjay]

LA, may I add that using the spray cans of termite spray available from local stores, is simply not enough. I used them on my door frame, the termites just move away from that immediate location to somewhere else.

They have to be dealt with on a commercial basis by a specialist company. They saturate spray the ground area where the termites are coming from, as well as apply a pesticide powder around affected wooden door farmes etc. Essentially they have to be knocked out at ground level which is where their nests/bases are and where they travel to and from all the time.

If the company cannot access under your floor, or there is no previously installed network of pipes, they will drill holes through the floor at intervals and then insert a spray nozzle through that.

[jetdoc]

Don't know about Thai termites but in Hawaii they didn't like teak or mahogany, they would devour the holly in the teak and holly sole and the whatever in the center of the mahogany plywood.

[laphanphon]

is simply not enough.

that's why i said, slowed them down, thwy'll be back. i hope they pace themselves, so i can replace the rest at slow intervals.

[Dakoda]

Fussychunk, sorry to appear to ignore your post. Thought I'd leave that to an appropriate expert.

[Though from my very limited experience, in the houses I've seen they seem to use suspended ceilings, suspended from the metal roof trusses/girders etc, by wires, so there isn't anywhere to walk up there. But as I say that's only my very limited experience from my and a couple of other houses I've looked in.]

same here. has nothing to do with the roof. paid somewhere between 200 to 300 baht per sq meter, but used green board, the regular stuff should be cheaper.