Is it time to say bye Thailand?

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Re: Is it time to say bye Thailand?

Post by glalt » June 15, 2019, 9:59 pm

I was in the navy. I saw enough salt water to last me a lifetime. However, one place I would have liked to live was Prachuap Kirikhan. Beautiful place. A very nice small city with many kilometers of deserted beaches and mountains close by. If I had been permitted to buy property there, I would likely still be there. I was single at the time and just wanted a quiet laid back life. After I got married, my wife had a house in a scenic part of Loei province. I did keep my condo in the farang ghetto but have been up here for more than ten years.



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Re: Is it time to say bye Thailand?

Post by vlad » June 16, 2019, 12:26 am

Sateeb There your just not getting it are you ? Thailand is a Beautiful place but you are now paying top doller those places where as a lot of years it was a cheap Destination but not anymore. The main reason I go to Udon is to meet all the friends i've met but that's all ?? you can't even use the pool at the Panarai unless your a guest there the kavin Buri is to dangerous with trip ends on the tongue n groove that move up and down when your walking, the sunbeds are all damaged and broken no umbrellas so what you do ? A run out to Ruy suk's pool or the Napalai, or the President. That's all you got in Udon. if it was not for the fact i have many friends id not be coming to Udon.

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Re: Is it time to say bye Thailand?

Post by GT93 » June 16, 2019, 8:52 am

jackspratt wrote:
June 15, 2019, 10:44 am
glalt wrote:
June 15, 2019, 9:55 am
Consider if you had been born in a muslim country. Miserable people may very well be candidates for a suicide vest. Count your blessings.
Based on posts on UM, I'll be keeping a close watch on the Christian Poms and Yanks then - thanks for the heads up. :roll:
Yes, I've been concerned about some deranged farang doing a mass spree killing in Thailand. The perp is likely to have been displaying considerable hostility and anger before going postal.

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Re: Is it time to say bye Thailand?

Post by glalt » June 16, 2019, 10:37 am

vlad wrote:
June 16, 2019, 12:26 am
Sateeb There your just not getting it are you ? Thailand is a Beautiful place but you are now paying top doller those places where as a lot of years it was a cheap Destination but not anymore. The main reason I go to Udon is to meet all the friends i've met but that's all ?? you can't even use the pool at the Panarai unless your a guest there the kavin Buri is to dangerous with trip ends on the tongue n groove that move up and down when your walking, the sunbeds are all damaged and broken no umbrellas so what you do ? A run out to Ruy suk's pool or the Napalai, or the President. That's all you got in Udon. if it was not for the fact i have many friends id not be coming to Udon.
A hotel swimming pool SHOULD be for only the guests. I used to stay at a hotel that had a nice swimming pool. The last time I stayed there they had opened it to the public. That totally destroyed the atmosphere and created a lot of damage. I would think that extra money was the reason it opened to the public. They may have collected money from the public but they lost at least this customer.

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Re: Is it time to say bye Thailand?

Post by GT93 » July 7, 2019, 4:56 pm

"Every year for the past eight years we have saved and come to Phuket for minimum of a week ..." a tourist reports:

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/tourism ... smiles?amp

He's not returning because of the attitude of shopkeepers in Phuket.

But Swampy is expecting 200,000 arrivals a day from October:

http://www.nationthailand.com/business/30372123

The Chinese are returning.

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Re: Is it time to say bye Thailand?

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GT93 wrote:
July 7, 2019, 4:56 pm
"Every year for the past eight years we have saved and come to Phuket for minimum of a week ..." a tourist reports:

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/tourism ... smiles?amp

He's not returning because of the attitude of shopkeepers in Phuket.

But Swampy is expecting 200,000 arrivals a day from October:

http://www.nationthailand.com/business/30372123

The Chinese are returning.
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GT93 wrote:
July 7, 2019, 4:56 pm
"Every year for the past eight years we have saved and come to Phuket for minimum of a week ..." a tourist reports:

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/tourism ... smiles?amp

He's not returning because of the attitude of shopkeepers in Phuket.

But Swampy is expecting 200,000 arrivals a day from October:

http://www.nationthailand.com/business/30372123

The Chinese are returning.
Our daughter, her two friends, and I spent a few days in Bangkok, Udon, Phuket, Samui, then Bangkok again.......non-stop shop, drink, eat, sight see. No bad encounters with taxis, tuktuks, speedboats, restaurants, shopkeepers. I'm sure they're out there.......especially if you get involved with some of the "tour louts" that prowl the airport/tourist sights. But then, I'd guess most all Asia tourist areas have them.

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Post by vlad » July 7, 2019, 7:13 pm

The pound has now fallen to 38 tbt with no good news to improve the rate.

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Post by newtovillagelife » July 8, 2019, 9:35 am

Rich Indians to the Rescue as Chinese Tourists Shun Thailand......

The rapid expansion of the middle class among India’s 1.3 billion people has prompted Thai authorities to upgrade their estimates of Indian visitors. At least 10 million are now expected to arrive in 2028, a more than five-fold increase on 2018 visits. That sort of growth trajectory would mimic the rise of Chinese tourists, who jumped from 800,000 in 2008 to more than 10 million last year.

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Re: Is it time to say bye Thailand?

Post by yartims » July 8, 2019, 7:53 pm

glalt wrote:
June 16, 2019, 10:37 am
vlad wrote:
June 16, 2019, 12:26 am
Sateeb There your just not getting it are you ? Thailand is a Beautiful place but you are now paying top doller those places where as a lot of years it was a cheap Destination but not anymore. The main reason I go to Udon is to meet all the friends i've met but that's all ?? you can't even use the pool at the Panarai unless your a guest there the kavin Buri is to dangerous with trip ends on the tongue n groove that move up and down when your walking, the sunbeds are all damaged and broken no umbrellas so what you do ? A run out to Ruy suk's pool or the Napalai, or the President. That's all you got in Udon. if it was not for the fact i have many friends id not be coming to Udon.
A hotel swimming pool SHOULD be for only the guests. I used to stay at a hotel that had a nice swimming pool. The last time I stayed there they had opened it to the public. That totally destroyed the atmosphere and created a lot of damage. I would think that extra money was the reason it opened to the public. They may have collected money from the public but they lost at least this customer.
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Re: Is it time to say bye Thailand?

Post by BillaRickaDickay » July 9, 2019, 6:39 am

I haven't used public swimming pools for decades, the first thing kids do when they get in is have a Piss.
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Re: Is it time to say bye Thailand?

Post by saint » July 9, 2019, 7:51 am

I would rather swim in a pool full of piss , than the coastal waters of Thailand that are full of untreated sewage .
Best to have your own pool if you have the space and like swimming . I thought about it , but my dogs would spend more time in it than myself or Mrs .

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Post by dunroaming » July 9, 2019, 8:16 am

saint wrote:
July 9, 2019, 7:51 am
I would rather swim in a pool full of piss , than the coastal waters of Thailand that are full of untreated sewage .
Best to have your own pool if you have the space and like swimming . I thought about it , but my dogs would spend more time in it than myself or Mrs .
With you on that one Saint and not sure but think they have the sense not to piss in it unlike kids lol

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Re: Is it time to say bye Thailand?

Post by pipoz4444 » October 21, 2019, 12:26 am

glalt wrote:
June 13, 2019, 8:05 pm
I had a friend who retired while in Hawaii. He said retiring there was too expensive so he came to Thailand. He never had anything good to say about Thailand so he moved to Cambodia. After less than a year he came back to Thailand. He said that Cambodia was worse than Thailand. After trying two different Thailand areas, he moved to the PI's. The last I heard from him he liked it there. The next time I heard was from his son. He passed away in the PI's RIP.
Each to his own. I just came back from Cambodia. Only spent a week there and that was all spend in Phnom Penh. I didn't go out side the city so I can't say anything about life in the Province areas. Whilst my snap shot of the place is narrow, I was impressed with a number of things about living Phnom Penh, more so than I was when I went to Manila (PI)

Gut feel is that is is about 10 years behind Ho Chi Minh (was in HCM in 2009, 2014 and 2017, so have seen the changes in that city). Style of PP has similarities to HCM. I would keep an eye on PP as it may well be a place to retire to, in the not to distant future (say in 5 years time). Just a few observation below,

1.Mini Marts: No 7 Eleven, but plenty of Smile marts, Kiwi Marts, Panda and others, with an excellent & better range of products than the 7 elevens in Thailand. Including a reasonable selection of western foods and even Vegemite & even BBQ Shapes (for those who know how hard they are to get in Thailand), scattered throughout the nightlife area

2.Booze: Cheaper than buying it in Thailand and it is sold in all the PP Mini Marts. They have a much bigger range in the PP Mini Marts, than in the Thai 7 elevens

3.Booze in the Riverside Bars: Cheaper than Thailand can get Angkor Beer in a tall glass from 75 Cents to 1 USD in many places. In most of the girlie bars Angkor Beer will cost you USD 1.50 (TB 45) and a Jameson Scotch & Soda for USD 3.50 (TB 105) and Jack Daniels & Coke for USD 4.00 (TB 120)

4.Ladies Drinks in Girlie Bars are USD 3.50 (TB 105) to USD 4.00 (TB 120), cheaper that those in Pattaya (unless you drink in the Fuglies Bars)

5.Pharmacies: Went into several Care Pharmacy (similar shop quality to Boots) but much better. The girls spoke fluent English and they had a better/larger range of Drugs than Boots. Just two examples; I pay TB 1300 for ... (a French Tablet) in Thailand the same exact tablet cost me USD 32 (TB 960) at the Car Pharmacy in PP. I also managed to by Rodogyl in Care and they don't even stock it in Thailand. No prescription needed, not even for Tramadol.

6.Hotel Accommodation: Fine and more affordable (cheaper) than Pattaya on a like for like basis. No problem finding good quality hotel accommodation for under TB 1,000 per night, within easy walking distance of the Nightlife (Streets 136, 130, 118, 51, 172 and so on)

7.Transport around the City at Night: 1 USD will get you an App/Grab Tuk Tuk for anything up to a 2 kms ride. They are safe, reliable and clean, not to mention most drivers can speak enough English. They are certainly not the arrogant/extortionist AH's that the Bangkok Taxi drivers are at night and much easier that the B Buses in Pattaya to get from A to B.

8.Apartments for Rent: You can find a reasonable quality One Bedroom Apartment (45-60m2) for USD 350 - 450 per month (TB 10,500 to 13,500 PM), down by the River close to to Nightlife. Can't speak for the rest of the City area.

9.Places to Eat along the River Front: Places like Ostro, Harry's and the Mekong Restaurant, down along the river road, serve good quality western foods. Main course meals (such as Hamburgers, Pizzas, Pastas etc) for between USD 7 to 11. A more upmarket Restaurant like OSKARS charge USD 11 to 20 for a main course. You can look up OSKARS on the web.

10. Safety: Didn't have any issue at night in my week there. Didn't see any issue, no drunken fighting or other crap. Felt quite safe walking between the nightlife streets at 2.00am. Didn't see any Tourist Police, though? Was however told buy a number of the bar managers & girls, not to carry my phone in my hand, but rather conceal it inside my pocket and also put my wallet/money elsewhere. Also told to steer clear of certain massage streets, where the girls will lift part of you money during a massage session.

11. Road Infrastructure: Around the city, I thought it was very good and some part actually excellent. Some nice wide Boulevards, which were well landscaped

11.Most Importantly the Girls: Whilst an overall the comparison would be subjective, on average the PP Nightlife Girls are more petite than those in Pattaya, certainly a better nature, less business like and can be much more playful, if you approach it the right way. Are they pretty, "yes many are very pretty, but not all".

Is the PP Nightlife worth a visit, the answer is "Certainly"

Gut feel is it will cost you 20% less than Pattaya to live in PP, for the norms of Food, Accommodation, daily Transport and Nightlife activities. Can't speak for the Hospital facilities, as I didn't go near one

Just a short insight into what I saw over a week

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Re: Is it time to say bye Thailand?

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » October 21, 2019, 2:12 am

Glad you enjoyed Phnom Penh. I stayed away from the night life but I noticed many touts around the river including girls and ladyboys for hire, and gamblers who are not shy from approaching you. I ate at Khmer places as I was not interested in western food. What is the quality of hospitals like in the Cambodian capital?[album][/album] I found the people as friendly as they are in Thailand, Laos and Burma.

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Glad you enjoyed Phnom Penh. I stayed away from the night life but I noticed many touts around the river including girls and ladyboys for hire, and gamblers who are not shy from approaching you. I ate at Khmer places as I was not interested in western food. What is the quality of hospitals like in the Cambodian capital?[album][/album] I found the people as friendly as they are in Thailand, Laos and Burma.

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Re: Is it time to say bye Thailand?

Post by glalt » October 21, 2019, 9:01 am

Myself and two of my friends used to make regular trips to Sihanoukville. Very laid back with pristine beaches and prices were much cheaper than Thailand. Before the last trip we were warned that the Chinese had completely taken over Sihanoukville. Of course we had to see for ourselves. We stayed in an expensive Chinese run hotel the first night. It was absolutely filthy. We went to a large nice looking restaurant to eat. No one waited on us. A guy finally came and told us it is for Chinese only. There are huge casinos on every block.

We were lucky to find a taxi driver who spoke very good English. He was not happy and said the government had stolen all the land and sold it to the Chinese. We told him we wanted a place like Sihanoukville used to be. He took us about 8 kilometers down the coast and even there a huge area had been bulldozed and another huge hotel casino was being built there. We will never go back.

Phnom Penh was still OK but it is also changing. Prices there are still cheaper than Thailand but it is not worth the travel expense and hassle of traveling. We have already toured Siem Reap and the temple complexes. They are spectacular and well worth seeing but we have been there and done that. There will be no more Cambodia trips for us.

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Post by GT93 » October 21, 2019, 1:38 pm

It's fun to throw in some unsubstantiated chatter and this is from Stickman's latest column:

"There is talk amongst expats in Sin City about a new 5-year visa for those aged over 60 years old, supposedly to help arrest the dwindling numbers in the expat community and stop more expats leaving. I mention this not to say that such a visa is coming – I have not heard a whisper about such a visa from any other source – more to report what expats are talking about and what I imagine is wishful thinking."

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Post by kopkei » October 21, 2019, 4:44 pm

do not forget to mention Cambodia concerned , 35 usd visa costs/month , and more corrupt than LOS.... ;)

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Post by Laan Yaa Mo » October 21, 2019, 4:46 pm

Some may say it's fun, others might say it is irresponsible to include unsubstantiated news.
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