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Misusing social welfare

Post by harmonyudon » March 22, 2013, 1:45 pm

I've read in some fora that many British residing in Thailand have their judgement about those people who claim social welfare in the UK. Siginificant is that they are usually refering to Asylum seekers. You hardly read about the British themselves claiming (unfair) social welfare.

For your info: from 3 April 2000 persons claiming asylum will be excluded from claiming social security benefits.

Asylum seekers and other types of persons from abroad could claim IS prior to 3 April 2000 under certain circumstances. Their personal allowance was reduced by 10%. Changes to the benefit rules were introduced in February 1996. Only those asylum seekers who had made an application for asylum when they first arrived in the UK, or whose countries had been declared an upheaval country were able to claim IS or Income-based Jobseeker’s Allowance. Entitlement ceased in the event of an initial negative decision from the Home Office on the asylum seeker’s asylum
application, and benefit was no longer payable during the asylum appeal process.

Asylum seekers in receipt of benefit when the changes were introduced were covered by transitional protection up until the next negative Home Office decision on their application. The Home Office have been funding IS payments to asylum seekers since April 1999, however from 3 April 2000 persons claiming asylum will be excluded from claiming social security benefits. Instead they will receive support depending on their circumstances, either from the National Asylum Support Service (NASS) that has been set up by the Home Office to manage such claims, or Local Authorities. Asylum seekers who claimed IS prior to 3 April 2000 will be entitled to IS at the ‘urgent cases’ payment rate. Transitional protection for these cases will continue until there is a relative change of circumstances.
I'm wondering if this person can claim her benefits in Thailand if she decides to live in TH?
Is it possible to claim social welfare from the UK in Thailand? Claiming Dutch Social benefits abroad is only possible for disable individuals.



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Post by Aardvark » March 22, 2013, 3:52 pm

Wouldn't it be more appropriate if you started a thread on Social Security in your own Country of Indonesia George, instead of trying to get a load of negative banter from the Brits about something that doesn't concern you. Unless of course you intend seeking Asylum in the UK in which case you would soon be able to afford to move back to Thailand and live Handsomely off of your ill begotten gains ????

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Post by harmonyudon » March 22, 2013, 4:06 pm

There is no social welfare in Indonesia like in western countries @Aardvark and I hope it will be introduce later for only those who have worked before, but only for 6 months or 1 year, or for really/genuine disable individuals. So not for those like in the video. The stimulation for work or start businesses is then less if you spoiled someone with social welfare like that. If you want to work in the UK or in NL or elsewhere in W-Europe you can.

It was news in the UK @Aardvark? Does it concern you? Probably, otherwise you would not react :^o :^o
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Post by wilson_smith » March 22, 2013, 4:30 pm

what is it called when someone tries to get responses from other people on an internet forum? :-k

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Post by Astana » March 22, 2013, 4:48 pm

wilson_smith wrote:what is it called when someone tries to get responses from other people on an internet forum? :-k
I guess that would called trolling which is against the forum rules I think :-k

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Post by jackspratt » March 22, 2013, 4:49 pm

wilson_smith wrote:what is it called when someone tries to get responses from other people on an internet forum? :-k
Georging? :-k

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Post by harmonyudon » March 22, 2013, 4:57 pm

wilson_smith wrote:what is it called when someone tries to get responses from other people on an internet forum? :-k
Perhaps nowadays you can call it social media....... :D

If a forum do not have responses is it still a forum?
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Post by mortiboy » March 22, 2013, 5:49 pm

I dont know about Misusing social Welfare, But this must be taking a PS!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -area.html

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Post by Astana » March 22, 2013, 6:19 pm

jackspratt wrote:
wilson_smith wrote:what is it called when someone tries to get responses from other people on an internet forum? :-k
Georging? :-k
What is Georging?

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Post by pienmash » March 22, 2013, 6:22 pm

Astana wrote:
jackspratt wrote:
wilson_smith wrote:what is it called when someone tries to get responses from other people on an internet forum? :-k
Georging? :-k
What is Georging?
Constantly eating endless amounts of food with out stopping ,,,,,,,, i think ??

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Post by harmonyudon » March 22, 2013, 6:31 pm

Indonesian food, chinese, Thai and Shoarma and kebabs....... :D

BTW, I think the most popular food/dish in England is now the Indian Curry :D

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No one wants to comment on the real topic of misusing social welfare by this woman. I find it absurd.
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Post by Astana » March 22, 2013, 6:35 pm

pienmash wrote:
Astana wrote:
jackspratt wrote:
wilson_smith wrote:what is it called when someone tries to get responses from other people on an internet forum? :-k
Georging? :-k
What is Georging?
Constantly eating endless amounts of food with out stopping ,,,,,,,, i think ??
I'm not sure Mash I thought it might be disgorging vomit at every opportunity! I maybe wrong.

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Post by harmonyudon » March 22, 2013, 6:43 pm

Astana wrote:I'm not sure Mash I thought it might be disgorging vomit at every opportunity! I maybe wrong.
@Astana, discuss the topic if you want and don't be a troll in this topic.
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Post by wilson_smith » March 22, 2013, 6:56 pm

I really like kebabs!

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Post by jackspratt » March 22, 2013, 7:43 pm

Astana wrote:
jackspratt wrote:
wilson_smith wrote:what is it called when someone tries to get responses from other people on an internet forum? :-k
Georging? :-k
What is Georging?
A sub-set of Trolling - but I think you nailed it in your later post.

I can forgive you forgetting the "e" in your spelling of "disgorging". :D

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Post by Astana » March 22, 2013, 7:48 pm

Disgeorging vomit it is Jack.

Well spotted.

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Post by harmonyudon » March 22, 2013, 8:10 pm

mortiboy wrote:I dont know about Misusing social Welfare, But this must be taking a PS!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -area.html
MortiBoy, this is also absurd........

For new comers perhaps no longer possible, in case Aardvark considers:
from 3 April 2000 persons claiming asylum will be excluded from claiming social security benefits.
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Misusing social welfare

Post by mortiboy » March 22, 2013, 8:21 pm

I find it "Mortifying!

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