Udon's Farang Nightlife

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Re: Udon's Farang Nightlife

Post by old timer » April 20, 2017, 3:54 pm

vincemunday wrote:Yesterday evening I went to a bar on the Nittayo road, on the corner opposite the post office and farang butcher to meet Peter for a beer, some of you will know him from the beach bar. The bar was packed, .
OT was out and about yesterday early evening and I was surprised how busy it was it a lot of bars including Day and Night. In fact its the busiest I've experienced for years. Maybe Easter holidays has something to do with the influx of customers or is Udon recovering for bar owners.
Lots of the usual bar conversations amongst tipsy falangs which OT loves to hear.

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Re: Udon's Farang Nightlife

Post by papafarang » April 20, 2017, 4:12 pm

no OT two peak periods for customers Christmas and songkran. customers will dry up again by early next month . then it's a long slow death for most places until the cool season starts. 3 months and the " transfer" season starts every bar goes up for sale, lucky ones will sell and another farang will try his hand at running a bar. the ones that don't sell will spend months paying out their own pocket to keep it going. anyway good to hear there's still life out there
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Re: Udon's Farang Nightlife

Post by vincemunday » April 20, 2017, 8:35 pm

The bar I was in last night was mainly full of locals, there was just a few Farang so I guess they will stay busy, we will see. There's at least one other 'farang' bar that's heavily frequented by Thai, perhaps that's the way forward?
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Post by mac1966 » April 20, 2017, 8:38 pm

Always interested to hear what's happening in udon nightlife scene.

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Re: Udon's Farang Nightlife

Post by tamada » April 20, 2017, 9:26 pm

vincemunday wrote:The bar I was in last night was mainly full of locals, there was just a few Farang so I guess they will stay busy, we will see. There's at least one other 'farang' bar that's heavily frequented by Thai, perhaps that's the way forward?
Of course it is the way forward for anyone hoping to do business in Udon Thani. However, there will be the same, high 'retail churn' as businesses come and go broke with only the landlords happily recouping deposits from the preponderance of Thai owned and operated bars, restaurants, clubs and what have you that can't make it past 12 months. Beyond location, a well managed, funded bar or restaurant can beat the odds if it offers or fills some niche regardless of who the owner is as long as they don't try and cater only for foreigners.

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Re: Udon's Farang Nightlife

Post by vincemunday » April 21, 2017, 7:51 am

It's a shame, no one likes to see someone lose their hard earned money but sometimes it's their own fault. They open a bar, play loud music, put a bit of "eye candy" on stools and expect the bar to work whereas most of the expat community here are married or in relationships and don't really want to drink somewhere with their wives etc and have bar girls trying to cadge drinks and more. 9 times out of 10 if me and the dear lady wife go to a bar that's got bar girls in we will move on, there are exceptions, there's a bar down nutty park for example with girls but the lady who owns the bar makes sure you aren't hassled by them if you're with the missus, strangely she does okay too.
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Re: Udon's Farang Nightlife

Post by Udon Map » April 21, 2017, 10:02 am

vincemunday wrote:They open a bar, play loud music, put a bit of "eye candy" on stools and expect the bar to work....
Bingo!! It takes much more to run a bar successfully than alcohol on the shelf and girls on the stools. Bars are businesses; yet so many westerners come to Thailand and don't realize that. It's just a guess, but I would wager that more bars change hands every year in Thailand than any other single type of business.

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Post by wazza » April 21, 2017, 12:37 pm

I visited Thailand, went to bars, loved it, retired and opened one, as I knew how they work, played my music and stocked my favourite grog , provided my favourite food, employed friends of my GF to staff it
Next week, I struggled to cover the costs, ( didnt know i had to pay for licences for music and tea money, no money in Archa with free ice )

Staff lost 3 grandparents, sewed 10 Rai of rice, 3 of their friends were boxing with their Bfs and Police raided me twice as I was open at 0100.

2nd week , the balloon chasers didnt turn up as hoped for my Free Friday night buffet, as my all day breakfast starting at 1100 to 1800 hrs wasnt doing all that well.

3rd week, went to other bars to see how they made money

4th week, booked a ticket to Pattaya and closed the bar

Its a satrical post ok, but I wonder how many bars in Thailand go this way every month

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Re: Udon's Farang Nightlife

Post by vincemunday » April 21, 2017, 12:52 pm

My guess is lots and lots...
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Re: Udon's Farang Nightlife

Post by mathusalah80 » April 21, 2017, 1:28 pm

timmy wrote:whats the name of the bar ? is it Peter who runs the bar ?
In 'English speak' the name would be pronounced "Yok Yai"
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Re: Udon's Farang Nightlife

Post by vidmaster » April 21, 2017, 3:47 pm

I think yok yai means " big joke" unless anyone knows better?

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Re: Udon's Farang Nightlife

Post by Drunk Monkey » April 21, 2017, 4:03 pm

As ever ...lots of armchair experts commenting on how to , OR ... how not to operate a business here ..noted most of whom never have done so HANDS ON or would want to even try .. mostly negative comments on how these places will fail for numerous reasons rather than best wishes for success .

Life thru rose tinted glasses ???????? or not but despite the many challenges whilst in business here Dao n I prefer to remain very positive as things are progressing quite well with regard to our business plan .... a cup half full person rather than half empty .. alas seems most internet armchair experts on all things Thai just seem to revel in the doom n gloom aspects of general living and/or running a bizz here, and actually appear amused when an individual encounters difficulties or a business goes to the wall.... very sad attitude imo .

To quote a well known local businessmans words to me the first day i landed in Udon ..

You cant win ... succeed and you will get slagged off and despised by the jealous ,,, fail and you be ridiculed and the source of amusement for the people who never even visited the business ... pretty accurate comment IMO .

On the footfall front ... IME ...The ISAAN provinces including Udon seem quite busy at the moment and lots of new venues opening and an upturn in enquiries plus customers for 3dm products , im guessing also a high percentage of these are choosing the UDON ring road for their location as town center a bit choked for driving and parking , cheaper rents services easy access probably the reasons .

GOOD LUCK TO ALL IN BUSINESS HERE ...live the dream if it makes you happy .

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Re: Udon's Farang Nightlife

Post by Chuchi » April 21, 2017, 6:32 pm

On the footfall front ... IME ...The ISAAN provinces including Udon seem quite busy at the moment and lots of new venues opening and an upturn in enquiries plus customers for 3dm products , im guessing also a high percentage of these are choosing the UDON ring road for their location as town center a bit choked for driving and parking , cheaper rents services easy access probably the reasons .

GOOD LUCK TO ALL IN BUSINESS HERE ...live the dream if it makes you happy .

As a customer I personally would like to see a few more eateries along the ring road ,saving me a journey into town.I look forward to trying a certain new addition in the not so near future.Good luck with the restaraunt.

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Re: Udon's Farang Nightlife

Post by Benchwarmer10 » April 21, 2017, 6:53 pm

It's not all doom & gloom. At BW we are achieving slightly more than our business plan targets. We've reached next months target already. Certainly not record breaking stuff, far from it, but considering the current business climate, paying all the bills and employing one more staff member, with a bit left over is pleasing.

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