Thailand to launch new 10 year multiple entry visa for over 50s

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Re: Thailand to launch new 10 year multiple entry visa for over 50s

Post by Marcosteffano » June 19, 2017, 11:57 am

wazza wrote:The junta have a reasonable argument to insist on medical insurance for all long term stayers etc etc ( that hurts to type this )

I read last year the Min for Heath saying over $3-4 million USD in unpaid medical bills at hospitals from expats who skip or cant pay or die etc

im sure there is a chest out there waiting for a few medals to support this ....

Fraught with issues, Acceptance of International medical insurance policies, Thai companies offering a nasty policy to get expats over the line at a premium cost no doubt as its compulsory, have to die first before they consider the claim , void as u didnt sign it lol
You'll probably find it's more a tourist problem of unpaid hospital bills as they are looking into all tourist having travel insurance when entering Thailand.a lot of expats are either retired,married,have money,businesses and pay our medical bills as we don't want to get into trouble with the authorities.i think it's come to light with tourist like Gary glass begging,living here without means,all the other beg packers,pregnant girls tourists having babies,tourists getting assaulted,electrocuted,scooter crashes all without insurance.to legally ride a scooter as a tourist and have medical insurance you need a full uk bike license,no more than 125cc and it has to be a quality insurance,not the £9.99 policy.

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Re: Thailand to launch new 10 year multiple entry visa for over 50s

Post by wazza » June 19, 2017, 12:37 pm

Agree , what im saying is, it will all be rolled into 1 problem / resolution.

Having travel insurance as you rightly stated, doesnt mean it covers the incident

Australian companies refuse to pay out, if you didnt have an Australian motor cycle licence or not have a recognize Dive ticket. Being under the influence of drugs and alcohol is another rejected claim....

Every week Australians ask the Embassy to bail them out, all refused unless a Bond is paid back in Oz by family or friends,

Back to the Visa.

Under 50, got money , single and living here with no working permitted. Ive got ticket no 3 in the queue LOL

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Post by Lone Star » June 19, 2017, 4:58 pm

Eventually, they'll figure out how to separate the wheat from the chaff. Authorities here aren't trying to eliminate those expats who are law-abiding, self-sufficient and contributing in various ways to the communities where they live. Like any other country -- unless that country is suicidal -- Thailand wants expats who are law-abiding and self-sufficient. Don't blame them. Most countries attempt to do the same in their immigration rules and laws.

The authorities are not going to jeopardize Thai nationals who depend on the income from expats. If it happens, it won't last long. They'll realize the error soon enough and tweak it. It's the reason why less is required by Immigration if one has a marriage visa. So the authorities DO understand what's going on.

For those who can't meet the income requirements, that's just the way it is when one is a guest in another country. The alternative is to go where income requirements can be met -- or go home. If it ever got to point where it affected me that way, I'd be unhappy, but I'd take my own advice. It's just the way it is.

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Re: Thailand to launch new 10 year multiple entry visa for over 50s

Post by Jello » June 20, 2017, 10:08 am

This scheme is not suppose to be a better retirement visa. Its aimed at medical tourist. I can see it could be useful for some people who have the money, live primarily in there home country, use Thailand for their medical needs and want to come and go as they please, staying as long as they like.

A much better 10 year visa is the MM2H in Malaysia. Lower financial requirements and much better benefits including rights to own property, work, national ID card and education for your foreign children. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_My_Second_Home

Wake me up when Thailand comes up with a scheme like this. 8)

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Re: Thailand to launch new 10 year multiple entry visa for over 50s

Post by DuiDui49 » June 20, 2017, 10:42 am

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Be mindfull..have an awsome day everyone. :D
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Re: Thailand to launch new 10 year multiple entry visa for over 50s

Post by DuiDui49 » June 20, 2017, 1:21 pm

Ten-year retirement visa doesn’t stand up to scrutiny
June 20, 2017 01:00
It is difficult to see who would rush to buy the new 10-year “retirement” visa announced on social media. It is actually a five-year visa renewable once, but the requirement to report every 90 days remains.

You now need to show Bt3 million, mostly or all in a Thai bank, and must have police clearance from your home country. The latter is difficult to obtain in some countries and virtually impossible if you happen to be American.

Medical insurance is compulsory, but must be bought only from a Thai company with the document written in Thai. This suggests that many farang will need to have two insurance policies, since the cover required for the 10-year visa is too low to cover many surgical procedures. Of course, many older foreigners can’t buy any kind of medical insurance as they are at higher risk of serious hospitalisation.

In fact there are alternatives to the complex medical insurance scenario, such as leaving a sizeable deposit in a Thai hospital to help cover future contingencies. But that would require a government initiative. If you speak to bursars in Thai private sector hospitals, they will tell you that many non-insured aliens are rich enough to pay all their bills. Not all are on the breadline or are basket cases.

It is a foregone conclusion that retirees will continue to opt for the one-year extension, which is

familiar and relatively straightforward. But that assumes that new 10-year visa will indefinitely remain an alternative rather than a compulsory feature of the immigration menu! To be successful, the 10-year visa would need some perq such as the right to work part-time (as in Malaysia) or extended right to buy property (Indonesia) or hassle-free bureaucracy (Cambodia upcoming).

Barry Kenyon

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/op ... r/30318542
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Re: Thailand to launch new 10 year multiple entry visa for over 50s

Post by BobHelm » June 20, 2017, 9:45 pm

OK Dui...., but I see absolutely no 'recommendation' in this to what is the alternative visa
for a 50 to 65 year old ex-pat not married to a Thai national...

Maybe you can advise on what is a suitable alternative???

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Re: Thailand to launch new 10 year multiple entry visa for over 50s

Post by Jello » June 21, 2017, 12:22 am

Dui's post is an opinion piece from the "letters to the editor" section of a newspaper.

It's written by a foreigner who like many, fail to understand who the target audience of this visa scheme is.

The writer also suggests that the 10-year visa may be the only alternative in the future. There has been nothing official to suggest this. The idea that the current one-year visa will go away is speculation by keyboard warriors on social media.

The writer also states that its virtually impossible for an American to get a police clearance. This is simply not true. I'm an American and for my first visa to come here I just walked in to my local police station and asked for it.
As Thailand aims to develop itself as a Medical and Wellness Tourism Center, the Ministry of Public Health and the Ministry of Tourism and Sports in their joint meeting agreed to create a new long-stay visa of 10 years.
http://www.richardbarrow.com/2016/12/lo ... -10-years/
The cabinet claims that the aim is to help promote medical and wellness tourism in line with the government's policy.
https://www.imtj.com/news/10-year-visa- ... -thailand/
Intended to promote Thailand as a hub for medical services,
http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/busi ... igners-50/
I can't find anything in the recent Thai news (legitimate news, not social media/forums/facebook/blogs or opinion pieces) that this visa scheme is now official or that any formal announcement has been made.

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Re: Thailand to launch new 10 year multiple entry visa for over 50s

Post by DuiDui49 » June 21, 2017, 8:43 am

God morning guys and girls !

Jello,spot on,,thank you very much.

My meaning with the post was just to add something to the 10 VISA discussion..if possible.

And to BH's input,well if you're happy with what you're on now,keep it like that..like me..;-)

Be blessed everyone..and don't forget to be mindfull of what you have and say thank you.
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Re: Thailand to launch new 10 year multiple entry visa for over 50s

Post by Lone Star » June 21, 2017, 11:24 am

Jello wrote:
June 21, 2017, 12:22 am
The writer also suggests that the 10-year visa may be the only alternative in the future. There has been nothing official to suggest this. The idea that the current one-year visa will go away is speculation by keyboard warriors on social media.

The writer also states that its virtually impossible for an American to get a police clearance. This is simply not true. I'm an American and for my first visa to come here I just walked in to my local police station and asked for it.
You are correct on all counts. =D> As with your experience, getting a police clearance in the US took all of 10 minutes. :D

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