Yet another school shooting in the US

[papafarang]

Papafarang


I agree with arming the children as it is their RIGHT and who can take that from them?
Could also dedicate one afternoon to Show and Tell and everyone could show off their weapons

ditch sports and have shooting lessons instead , make it part of study.

[stattointhailand]

You mean killing people ISN'T a sport in America

[vlad]

Well Doodoo just about sums up the thinking of your average American arm everyone any age show off who has the biggest. Im also finished posting on this now time to move on.

[tamada]

Jeeeze you must be pretty damn bored if your still clicking on it after 24 pages and your not even interested .........

Don't worry there will be another Sausages for Sunday Lunch thread coming to a screen near you soon

Not sure about how safe sausages are any more either...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/z877qhv

[papafarang]

Jeeeze you must be pretty damn bored if your still clicking on it after 24 pages and your not even interested .........

Don't worry there will be another Sausages for Sunday Lunch thread coming to a screen near you soon

Not sure about how safe sausages are any more either...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/z877qhv

well sure safer to have a sausage in a school, unlike guns ,even gun safety classes are dangerous. strange how our local gun nut has defended the teacher

[Lone Star]

I categorically deny that it's about 'mischaracterizing' you or that I try to show you 'in some negative way'.

You don't decide when anything is dealt with and over unless it applies only to you.

You can deny all you want -- categorically or any other way. The nice thing is that readers CAN READ and comprehend and see that your categorical denial is bunk.

Here's just one example.

I owned one many years ago. Sold it after having it less than a year. Found it to be a less than durable weapon and too long to use in confined spaces -- like swinging it from the back seat to the front seat and exiting. I opted instead for the Ruger Mini 14 -- shorter, easier to use in confined spaces, much more durable physically and shoots the same caliber round.

You categorically made the leap from my statement about the weapon being physically weak and unwieldy to this:

I was interested to read how you opined that the AR-15 is less portable, swinging it off the back seat, jumping out of vehicles and use in confined spaces. I thought yes, that could be a liability in a firefight in The Helmand. Then I thought about you finding a parking space in front of your favorite Target or Walmart and swinging around to grab something off the back seat... and the moment was lost. No, I'm not suggesting that you would start shooting it for the hell of it... but the concept of needing to be always alert to the risk of concentrated enemy fire while simply picking up the groceries in middle America would be really funny if it wasn't so grotesque.

If you were sincerely interested in my statement about the AR-15, as you claimed (see quote above), you could have asked why it was necessary for me to be able to perform with the weapon in that manner. Instead, that active imagination and kommando nature of yours took over and tried to categorically turn me into some wild-eyed vigilante or some goon paramilitary member -- when my role was the complete opposite. You even provided an imaginary public setting where innocent people could have been harmed by me through reckless ownership and use of a firearm.

In your eyes none of that may be negative, but you characterized your feelings about that phony, imaginary and made-up scenario as "grotesque." I guess a "grotesque" idea of something -- even if phony and made up -- isn't negative in your eyes either. Regardless, it's certainly not a positive portrayal, and it was all created through that active imagination and that kommando nature of yours.

Yeah, you can deny it all you want -- categorically and any other way.

You found what you thought was one of those "openings" you talk about, and then used your very active imagination to embellish it in a way that only a kommando could do.

That's just one example.

Your categorical denial is bunk, your statement is fraudulent, and readers can read the thread for themselves. You even admitted to stepping into it with both feet. So how can you categorically deny what you've admitted? That's another great leap.

And don't misunderstand me. I'm not crying about it. I'm pointing out once again the hilarity of it all and how childish, insincere and immature you and your Gaggle have been throughout this thread and some others. Some of you never got past the junior high school maturity level -- categorically.

[vlad]

No one is interested anymore Lonestar , this thread has ran its course time to move on.

[Lone Star]

And as time passes, more truths come out. Authorities were warned about the shooter years ago and wanted him forcibly committed due to his mental instability.

Even the NY Times is not denying this truth.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/18/us/n ... r-act.html

Time
http://time.com/5204947/florida-parklan ... committed/

And here's the biggest bombshells of all. The Obama Administration's contribution to unfettered access and program to ignore the law regarding school discipline.

Obama Administration Asks Schools to Drop Zero-Tolerance Approach
https://www.theatlantic.com/national/ar ... ine/356812

Obama Discipline Policies
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/us/p ... icies.html

Lax Discipline Policies Made Schools Dangerous
https://nypost.com/2017/12/23/obamas-la ... dangerous/

500,000 Deleted from Background Check Database by Obama's DOJ
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03- ... k-database

http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/15/doj-f ... -database/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... 77bdea63e6

And there's more. Do your own research.

As I have stated, there are numerous safeguards in place ALREADY -- locally and on a federal level. If the laws aren't enforced, then people who shouldn't have guns are able to get guns.

It's too easy to blame the gun and the lawful gun owners who aren't involved in these attacks.

[LU]

It's happened again! This time in the state of Maryland. Unlike what happened at the high school in Florida, this time the school resource officer confronted the shooter and shot him.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sh ... ol-n858186

[Lone Star]

Ben Shapiro TELLS IT.

LIBs think that people under 21 years of age should not own a firearm. Yet LIBs point to the same people under 21 years of age and want us to believe that those under 21 know enough about firearms and gun control to tell the rest of us who should own firearms.

LIBs live in a Swamp of Hypocrisy.

[tamada]

I categorically deny that it's about 'mischaracterizing' you or that I try to show you 'in some negative way'.

You don't decide when anything is dealt with and over unless it applies only to you.

You can deny all you want -- categorically or any other way. The nice thing is that readers CAN READ and comprehend and see that your categorical denial is bunk.

Here's just one example.

I owned one many years ago. Sold it after having it less than a year. Found it to be a less than durable weapon and too long to use in confined spaces -- like swinging it from the back seat to the front seat and exiting. I opted instead for the Ruger Mini 14 -- shorter, easier to use in confined spaces, much more durable physically and shoots the same caliber round.

You categorically made the leap from my statement about the weapon being physically weak and unwieldy to this:

I was interested to read how you opined that the AR-15 is less portable, swinging it off the back seat, jumping out of vehicles and use in confined spaces. I thought yes, that could be a liability in a firefight in The Helmand. Then I thought about you finding a parking space in front of your favorite Target or Walmart and swinging around to grab something off the back seat... and the moment was lost. No, I'm not suggesting that you would start shooting it for the hell of it... but the concept of needing to be always alert to the risk of concentrated enemy fire while simply picking up the groceries in middle America would be really funny if it wasn't so grotesque.

If you were sincerely interested in my statement about the AR-15, as you claimed (see quote above), you could have asked why it was necessary for me to be able to perform with the weapon in that manner. Instead, that active imagination and kommando nature of yours took over and tried to categorically turn me into some wild-eyed vigilante or some goon paramilitary member -- when my role was the complete opposite. You even provided an imaginary public setting where innocent people could have been harmed by me through reckless ownership and use of a firearm.

In your eyes none of that may be negative, but you characterized your feelings about that phony, imaginary and made-up scenario as "grotesque." I guess a "grotesque" idea of something -- even if phony and made up -- isn't negative in your eyes either. Regardless, it's certainly not a positive portrayal, and it was all created through that active imagination and that kommando nature of yours.

Yeah, you can deny it all you want -- categorically and any other way.

You found what you thought was one of those "openings" you talk about, and then used your very active imagination to embellish it in a way that only a kommando could do.

That's just one example.

Your categorical denial is bunk, your statement is fraudulent, and readers can read the thread for themselves. You even admitted to stepping into it with both feet. So how can you categorically deny what you've admitted? That's another great leap.

And don't misunderstand me. I'm not crying about it. I'm pointing out once again the hilarity of it all and how childish, insincere and immature you and your Gaggle have been throughout this thread and some others. Some of you never got past the junior high school maturity level -- categorically.

I am immensely pleased to know that by your lengthy, detailed but ultimately circular responses to my much more succinct posts that I am renting quite considerable space in your tiny head. I guess that's where you narrow mind is such a bonus.

[papafarang]

it was noted that the post about a teacher discharging a gun and injuring students was bypassed an ignored as it went completely against the narrative , as for the NRA being blamed, well they do support every single mass shooters right to own a gun ...maybe that's why .... Doh

[Lone Star]

According to Axios.com, David Hogg, the anti-gun Parkland student protester, is upset that his backpack rights are being infringed upon. Hogg is the Left's student mouthpiece for the moment and has been spending more time on CNN than in class.

Hogg is fighting back against new security programs at his high school. One of those is a requirement that backpacks must be clear, see-through only. There is no additional cost to the student. The backpacks are being provided free of charge. Metal detectors are also another consideration of the school system.

Hogg, however, is upset about this infringement on his backpack rights, telling Axios, “After we come back from Spring Break, they’re requiring us all to have clear backpacks ... it’s unnecessary. It’s embarrassing for a lot of the students.”

The irony here is remarkable. The same David Hogg who is stridently running around the country calling for further restrictions on every American’s Second Amendment RIGHT is concerned about his RIGHT to privacy.

LIB Hypocrisy never ends. To LIBs, they like to pick and choose which Rights should be respected and preserved. They also want to be the ones to decide for the rest of us.

Aside from the Hogg Hypocrisy regarding his concern for rights, he should know that anyone who walks into a government building (even a school) anywhere in the US is voluntarily giving up some privacy rights. It's even true for student lockers, etc.

[Doodoo]

When will you understand that no gives a sh== and you can go on and on and blah blah blah
As I have said before there should be no age limit to owning a gun, pistol, sling shot, whatever in the USA When one is conceived the Parents should be running to their local gun shop to reserve a weapon and upon the individual being born give it to him/her.
Shoot your selves hold protests get on CNN and have your 15 minutes of fame This subject has run its course and is boring
On to bigger and more interesting subjects going on in the world

[parrot]

My VFW hat is tipped to the teenage students who may be able to do what the parents of Sandy Hook and Columbine couldn't/wouldn't do. I have little doubt we'll look back on the US love affair with guns the same way we look back on the wars in Vietnam and Iraq.........and ask, how could we have been duped?

[Lone Star]

The freedom to assemble and protest is protected by the same Bill of Rights that guarantees a citizen the right to keep and bear arms. It is that 2nd Amendment that insures that all of the other rights remain protected.

It is a fact that Americans do not look upon the right to bear arms as an equivalent to the gut-wrenching involvement in Vietnam -- or even Iraq; and I doubt that Americans will ever look back on this time and think so. Vietnam and Iraq are perfect examples of why the 2nd Amendment is necessary. No American wants their country to be steamrolled by communism or tyrants.

There is a process for amending the Constitution. After Vietnam, Americans petitioned the government to lower the voting age to 18. It was done by Amendment. Americans also petitioned the government to end the military draft. That was also accomplished. If Americans wanted to give up their guns, that would also happen.

Those being duped are the ones who think that somehow Americans are being forced by some mysterious power to preserve their right to bear arms and keep their guns. There is no one being duped or tricked into keeping their guns. If Americans wanted an Amendment to make firearms illegal, it would happen. Not even the Democrats, who scream to the heavens with their hair on fire, have the balls to initiate the process of rescinding the 2nd Amendment. They would do so at the personal and political peril to their party.

The latest LIB rant is to lower the voting age to 16 ... while at the same time they scream that no one under 21 should own a gun -- but at 18, they can go fight wars. That's just another example of the Sewer of Hypocrisy in which LIBs live.

I tip my NRA cap to the US Constitution.

[papafarang]

"communism or tyrants." now that is a blast from the past. not got the memo yet ,Vietnam don't suffer from mass school shootings, and I don't think Vietnam plans to invade the USA anytime soon. don't think their wooden boats would make it anyone out there worried about commies under the bed ? as for tyrants ...well Vietnam and Iraq are a great example of countries that have been invaded by another tyrannical state.

so lets get back to teachers shooting kids in "gun class 101", can we have your opinions on safety issues of guns in class ?, the way I see it if teachers can carry guns then students need to as well .teachers are just human, they too can lose the plot.

The figures come from the union’s 2017 Educator Quality of Work Life Survey, a poll administered to almost 5,000 teachers and school staff across the country. Results suggest a sizable increase in the number of stressed educators since the poll was last conducted in 2015. In particular, 58 percent of respondents described their mental health as “not good” for at least seven of the previous 30 days. Just two years ago, that number was 34 percent.

really ? you want to give guns to people stressed out ? 58% of them emotionally unstable in the last 30 days?

[Doodoo]

really ? you want to give guns to people stressed out ? 58% of them emotionally unstable in the last 30 days?

Answer YES YES YES Give them all guns let them shoot it out BUT turn off CNN so the rest of don't have to list to those news people who make God only knows what kind of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

This has been going on for decades/centuries so let them have their way. Finally a civilized country who want to do themselves in So let it be

[papafarang]

sadly Doodoo that really is the question , should we really care if American children are murdered , apparently not. because the right to have a gun overrides the right to life. they need guns because of commies , tyrants and the fact that America is so full of bad white people that they all need arming. interesting but it seems a very white past time.
and we are talking about mass shootings not gun control.

commies
tyrants
white folk

[vlad]

Who cares leave them to it i dont live there so dont give a toss.