Any Successful Steel Houses Built near UdonThani?

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Re: Any Successful Steel Houses Built near UdonThani?

Post by JWCole » April 13, 2018, 6:52 am

AussieBoy wrote:
January 30, 2012, 4:01 pm
Company in Vientaine doing fram cad steel homes, delivered to udon , only has a fram cad site up but can supply frame for kit home cladded, any one going over there might like to investigate, I will check out his operation next time in Udon, Stel a better light weight cooler solution than the red brick render system, if the operator gets it right there will be a good market here for the system

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Did you ever get the name and contact details of this company?

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Re: Any Successful Steel Houses Built near UdonThani?

Post by AussieBoy » April 14, 2018, 2:11 am

Yes I did , visited the factory, but I think they closed down, have not heard much about Laos operations from Framecad, email them they use Bluescope steel from australia, framecad design and build the machines, and supply the software to run it, so if any one in Thailand or Laos has one of their machines they will be able to tell you, Bluescope Steel has a plant in Khon Khan, not sure if the roll and make the steel frames, but they will point you in the right direction, 2 choices for you to chase up, they was a big company in Pucket Island rolling frames,

Peter Blythe is the man in the know on steel framing in OZ, check him out, give him a email, he may also be able tell you who has framing machine in Thailand Laos Veitnam, he's more than helpful,
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Re: Any Successful Steel Houses Built near UdonThani?

Post by bluejets » April 15, 2018, 7:26 am

Aussie Bluescope in Thailand at link below.

Hope this helps.... Cheers Jorgo

Scroll down to the Thailand image and click there.

https://www.bluescope.com/about-us/where-we-are/

With the recent posts on termite problems, it could be a good move to consider steel.
Would be other considerations covering internal fixings but Kally would be the man to ask there.

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Re: Any Successful Steel Houses Built near UdonThani?

Post by AussieBoy » April 15, 2018, 10:51 pm

If they treat the timber pre purchases, LOSP to H1-H3 requirements there would be no problem, 10,000s houses built in OZ every year, very little complaints about termites, under slab treatment, stainless mesh for block walls, termimesh, vast ways to stop termites, my home was all timber here, no problems I used the correct method from the beginning.

Once there in, difficult to treat.
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Re: Any Successful Steel Houses Built near UdonThani?

Post by bluejets » April 17, 2018, 5:53 am

My slab done back in the '80s with the good stuff, not allowed anymore.
Under external walls they use the orange tape with the chemical built in BUT according to the blokes that put it in , only 10 year guarantee.
Saw stainless mesh used a few times but seems it was too expensive or for some other reason they have all reverted back to the orange stuff.
Seen a couple use the perimeter underground tubing and the pest guys pump chemicals in every so often.
I remember south Aus was really bad for the critters and nearly all building was brick/block inside and out.
Where I live in the last 30 years they seem to have moved in in numbers also.

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Post by ajarnudon » May 1, 2018, 10:17 pm

Hi guys
Like Bluejets, my 1990 slab-on-ground build on the Gold Coast (Oz) was one of the last to have really effective sub-slab treatment. Later timber add-ons had to be protected with a 30 x 30 cm trench of sand with perforated hose thru which a Bayer product was pumped. Initial treatment had a 3 yr warranty, but it proved so effective that the second treatment had a 5 yr warranty. I never had an issue, although one neighbour (build 5 yrs later) had a massive problem.
Nevertheless, this is Thailand, and discussing what happened when in our home countries won't help people building here to any great extent.
A couple of years ago a friend told me that he had bought DDT off the shelf of a local hardware store in Udon. I have taken a different route - my build is 100% steel and concrete. Not a stick of timber in the place, termite-proof and fireproof.

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Re: Any Successful Steel Houses Built near UdonThani?

Post by bluejets » May 3, 2018, 6:03 am

Termites are termites so whatever one experiences in Aus could be assessed as a warning note to Thailand also.
As I said earlier, it's not just timber they have a crack at.
Electrics have been know to be on their munching menu.

https://www.voltimum.com.au/articles/te ... cal-cables

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Re: Any Successful Steel Houses Built near UdonThani?

Post by ajarnudon » May 5, 2018, 11:32 pm

In Thailand it would be hard to go past rats as the specie with the most voracious appetite for PVC insulation. All electric cables in my build are run in conduit for this reason.

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Re: Any Successful Steel Houses Built near UdonThani?

Post by bluejets » May 6, 2018, 5:58 am

Little tip in the rat situation, run cabling on the underside surface instead of clipped to the side or strung out like a madmans breakfast.
Still have to do conduit drops to wall panels etc.

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Re: Any Successful Steel Houses Built near UdonThani?

Post by glalt » May 7, 2018, 12:08 pm

With the labor as cheap as it is, If I were building a new house, I would use concrete blocks doubled up with an air space in between and aluminum windows. I would use steel rafters and no wood. Wood would not be used at all if it could be avoided. If the builder uses a little care, he will seal the airspace against rats as well as possible. If rats should find their way between the walls, it is not difficult to gas them. Renting a large canister of nitrogen will do the trick and it is not dangerous like most poisons.

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Post by Stantheman » May 7, 2018, 6:44 pm

3 cats, all outside, equals no rats/mice and big decrease in gecko

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Re: Any Successful Steel Houses Built near UdonThani?

Post by glalt » May 8, 2018, 7:52 pm

Some time back I had a brainstorm about importing pressure treated lumber from the US. After emails back and forth, these companies would NOT guarantee their treated lumber against Thailand termites. It was another idea that crashed and burned.

Concrete and steel is the best way to build a house here in Thailand. Steel framing sounds good but termites will eat the paper off inside drywall. Plastic Siding is supposedly termite resistant but stucco on blocks is still cheaper.

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Re: Any Successful Steel Houses Built near UdonThani?

Post by bluejets » May 9, 2018, 7:38 pm

If building anywhere within cooee of coastal areas just be aware that the natural breezes carry salt like you wouldn't believe. ( Yes realise this is Udon )
Seen houses within 2 klm of the coast with steel trusses completely rusted away within 800mm of the facias.
Can only imagine what the frames are like but as an indicator, points on outer cavity walls need regular replacement.
Latter being a side effect of mandatory installation of elcb's (safety switches)

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Re: Any Successful Steel Houses Built near UdonThani?

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Re: Any Successful Steel Houses Built near UdonThani?

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