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Re: Trump and the Stock Markets

Post by Udon Map » December 10, 2018, 7:58 pm

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Just more proof that the stock markets alone are not a true/complete indicator of the health of the economy.
Sorry, that's not going to fly. When the stock market's going up, it's an example of steady winning with Trump's leadership; but when it's pointed out that the market is doing worse under Trump than it did under Obama, the answer is that it's not a true indicator of the health of the economy? Um,... no. You can't change the rules in the middle of the game. If you actually believed that the stock market is not a true indicator of the health of the economy, you wouldn't have cited it as an example of steady winning.



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Re: Trump and the Stock Markets

Post by Lone Star » December 10, 2018, 8:06 pm

Udon Map wrote:
December 10, 2018, 7:58 pm
Lone Star wrote:
December 10, 2018, 7:13 pm
Just more proof that the stock markets alone are not a true/complete indicator of the health of the economy.
Sorry, that's not going to fly. When the stock market's going up, it's an example of steady winning with Trump's leadership; but when it's pointed out that the market is doing worse under Trump than it did under Obama, the answer is that it's not a true indicator of the health of the economy? Um,... no. You can't change the rules in the middle of the game. If you actually believed that the stock market is not a true indicator of the health of the economy, you wouldn't have cited it as an example of steady winning.
I have never ever believed or stated that the stock market is the sole indicator of an economy's health. If you are making that claim, you need to back it up.

I never even taught that bullsh*t foolishness in the classroom. Anyone who knows anything about economics and the stock market knows this.
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Re: Trump and the Stock Markets

Post by newtovillagelife » December 10, 2018, 9:05 pm

Lone Star wrote:
December 10, 2018, 8:06 pm
Udon Map wrote:
December 10, 2018, 7:58 pm
Lone Star wrote:
December 10, 2018, 7:13 pm
Just more proof that the stock markets alone are not a true/complete indicator of the health of the economy.
Sorry, that's not going to fly. When the stock market's going up, it's an example of steady winning with Trump's leadership; but when it's pointed out that the market is doing worse under Trump than it did under Obama, the answer is that it's not a true indicator of the health of the economy? Um,... no. You can't change the rules in the middle of the game. If you actually believed that the stock market is not a true indicator of the health of the economy, you wouldn't have cited it as an example of steady winning.
I have never ever believed or stated that the stock market is the sole indicator of an economy's health. If you are making that claim, you need to back it up.

I never even taught that bullsh*t foolishness in the classroom. Anyone who knows anything about economics and the stock market knows this.

How does a Gym Teacher teach anything in the classroom.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » December 11, 2018, 10:44 am

President Donald Trump has expressed concern that he could be impeached when Democrats take over the House, a source close to the President told CNN Monday. The source said Trump sees impeachment as a "real possibility."

Sounds like someone with something criminal to hide.

If the lying coward did nothing wrong why is he afraid of impeachment.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Giggle » December 11, 2018, 10:56 am

Only two presidents have ever been impeached. Neither were removed from office. Still Making America Great Again (and driving shallow, petty, ignorant Brittles out of their minds) for another six years. Britain and the US appear to be headed in opposite directions. \:D/
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » December 11, 2018, 12:24 pm

According to data from the US Energy Information and Administration, for the first time in 75 years, the US has exported more oil than imported. This is another promise kept by Trump that he would insure that America would be energy independent.

The US is now the world’s largest producer of petroleum. Yes, they have surpassed both Russia and Saudi Arabia. As a result, US gas prices have dropped from the $4 dollar plus highs under the previous administration.

Bloomberg:
"U.S. crude exports are poised to rise even further, with new pipelines from the Permian in the works and at least nine terminals planned that will be capable of loading supertankers. The only facility currently able to load the largest ships, the Louisiana Offshore Oil Port, is on pace to load more oil in December than it has in any other month."
Huge extractions from the Permian, Delaware and Midland Basins are now believed to hold more oil than originally thought. Thousands of wells are pumping today across Texas, New Mexico, North Dakota and Pennsylvania.

According to the International Energy Agency, "the United States will be the biggest contributor to the oil market, accounting for almost 75 percent of global oil production growth in the period to 2040."

Trump unleashed energy in the US.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » December 11, 2018, 12:42 pm

If you defend the constitution, as the POTUS should do, then you are NOT ABOVE the LAW. Most Trump supporters don't even know what the constitution is.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » December 11, 2018, 12:43 pm

Giggle wrote:
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. . .

Britain and the US appear to be headed in opposite directions. \:D/
According to the head of the IMF, Christine Legarde, the US is headed north and in the opposite direction economically than everyone else in the world.



Just past the 4 minute mark, Legarde shares the IMF's prediction for US GDP growth -- 3.7% GDP. This means that even global bankers are admitting that Trump has more than doubled US economic growth in under two years in office. The rest of the world is either flat or falling behind.

To look at this and understand it in dollar figures, 3.7% GDP growth in a $22 Trillion economy is $700 BILLION-plus. The economy is now growing at a rate of over $700 BILLION annually.

UK GDP is $2.6 Trillion ... France GDP is $2.5 Trillion ... Canada is $1.6 Trillion ... Do the math. That annual growth is approximately 25% of the GDP of the UK and France and 33% of the GDP of Canada. Turkey, Netherlands, Saudi Arabia and Switzerland have GDP under $1 Trillion. The US annual GDP increase is almost equivalent or surpasses all four of them. HUGE. HUGE. HUGE.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » December 11, 2018, 12:50 pm

The US stock market is saying recession ahead. Steady LOSING!!!!!!

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Giggle » December 11, 2018, 1:40 pm

Suck it you loser Brittle wanna-bes. You aren't Americans and you never will be. I love watching your stock go down the toilet. It gives me great joy.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » December 11, 2018, 2:34 pm

Giggle wrote:
December 11, 2018, 1:40 pm
Suck it you loser Brittle wanna-bes. You aren't Americans and you never will be. I love watching your stock go down the toilet. It gives me great joy.
Hope you don't have any cash in the US market, if so, look out below!!!!!

The crux of it is that you can't stand the fact that the most intelligent, and classy POTUS that you have had so far is an AFRICAN AMERICAN. That's the way the rest of the world sees it, suck it up buttercup.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by GT93 » December 11, 2018, 4:46 pm

I don't know about "the most" but Obama clearly wasn't a nincompoop like the incumbent who seems to have few people skills or virtues at all.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » December 11, 2018, 4:52 pm

GT93 wrote:
December 11, 2018, 4:46 pm
I don't know about "the most" but Obama clearly wasn't a nincompoop like the incumbent who seems to have few people skills or virtues at all.
Well said. Couldn't agree more.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » December 11, 2018, 5:54 pm

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there are over 7 million jobs now available for an estimated 6 million unemployed job seekers.

The data shown in the link below shows that the majority of the job increases are a benefit to men and women in the middle class -- both blue collar and white collar.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/jolts.a.htm

Manufacturing jobs continue to grow. Obama told us that they were gone forever and that Trump would need a magic wand to change that. I guess Trump found the magic wand.

The fact that retail jobs are growing shows that Americans are buying products and services at greater amounts. When Americans have more disposable income, they tend to spend it.

The US economy is very healthy. Wages continue to increase.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » December 12, 2018, 7:31 am

Jesus, all this talk about the fu$$ing wall, take it out of the military budget and get it built already. Since this illegal immigration seems to be the biggest National Security Threat. Dump was already talking about the military building it, let them pay for it, and be done with this sh##.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by papafarang » December 12, 2018, 10:18 am

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » December 12, 2018, 10:40 am

For all of those getting themselves in a tizzy over the possibility that Trump will be indicted, be convicted and go to jail, there is bad news in the form of legal precedent and the law itself that will prevent it.

First and foremost, the Cohen indictment and subsequent guilty pleading is Cohen's guilt, not Trump's. Second, Cohen says the money for the Non-disclosure Agreement was a campaign contribution. Trump says it was a private contract. It's Cohen's word against Trump's word. There is no other evidence in this matter, and Cohen's attorney, Lanny Davis, has already admitted that there is no other evidence.

Regardless of who you believe. Those are the facts.

Now let's look at the legalities of it all.

According to official Department of Justice policy since 1973, a sitting president cannot be indicted. Only the Congress can charge and convict a sitting president. Period. Yes, it can be tested in the courts, but that's how things stand today. Democrats were very concerned during the Kavanaugh Hearings about Kavanaugh maintaining precedent in his court decisions. I doubt that Democrats feel the same way about this precedent. Dems have a history of being hypocrites. Democrats will want to ignore precedent in this case.

Next in the legal view of it all is that campaign finance violations are historically vague because the laws are not well-written and not very specific. The actual rules and context are important, but the media isn't sharing any of these vague rules to show all sides because it destroys their narrative of "Trump must be guilty."

Actual campaign rules and the context of campaign finance laws do NOT include non-disclosure agreements or other contracts, payments, arrangements or other private acts as campaign contributions. Private contracts are all normal behavior that is not required to be regulated or reported. The private contracts can be made in any manner or in any amount.

The public disclosure of Cohen's guilty plea arrangements was meant to put Trump on trial in the court of public opinion. With Cohen pleading guilty, the evidence will not be tested in a courtroom. Those out to get Trump can let the rumors fly among a populace that is ignorant of campaign finance laws. Even many attorneys are ignorant of campaign finance laws, which are almost always handled in civil court and with fines. It's an attempt once again by Democrats (just like with Kavanaugh) to try someone in the court of public opinion without due process and no presumption of innocence. Dems are trying to create an environment where they can feel safe in beginning impeachment over something that would never get through the court process.

Where impeachment is concerned, non-disclosure agreements (private contracts) that occurred before Trump was president are completely unrelated to the office of president. Earlier private contracts do not fall under the impeachment clause wording of "high crimes and misdemeanors" and did not occur while Trump was president. The president's duties are not affected by those earlier private contracts.

If Trump is re-elected in 2020, any charges against him regarding this non-disclosure agreement will automatically go away because the statute of limitations on them (5 years) will have expired. The GET TRUMP folks will have to dream up some other GET TRUMP charge.

In summary, the law and precedent are on Trump's side. That doesn't mean that it won't be tested in the courts, and it doesn't mean that LIBs and Dems will not use propaganda -- as they are currently doing -- to try to convict Trump in the court of public opinion. Also, even if Dems go down that road of impeachment in the House regarding this non-disclosure agreement, there will not be any conviction in the Senate. The impeachment effort will be for naught.

The cheerleaders for failure shouldn't get their hopes up.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by newtovillagelife » December 12, 2018, 10:50 am

Lone Star wrote:
December 12, 2018, 10:40 am
For all of those getting themselves in a tizzy over the possibility that Trump will be indicted, be convicted and go to jail, there is bad news in the form of legal precedent and the law itself that will prevent it.

First and foremost, the Cohen indictment and subsequent guilty pleading is Cohen's guilt, not Trump's. Second, Cohen says the money for the Non-disclosure Agreement was a campaign contribution. Trump says it was a private contract. It's Cohen's word against Trump's word. There is no other evidence in this matter, and Cohen's attorney, Lanny Davis, has already admitted that there is no other evidence.

Regardless of who you believe. Those are the facts.

Now let's look at the legalities of it all.

According to official Department of Justice policy since 1973, a sitting president cannot be indicted. Only the Congress can charge and convict a sitting president. Period. Yes, it can be tested in the courts, but that's how things stand today. Democrats were very concerned during the Kavanaugh Hearings about Kavanaugh maintaining precedent in his court decisions. I doubt that Democrats feel the same way about this precedent. Dems have a history of being hypocrites. Democrats will want to ignore precedent in this case.

Next in the legal view of it all is that campaign finance violations are historically vague because the laws are not well-written and not very specific. The actual rules and context are important, but the media isn't sharing any of these vague rules to show all sides because it destroys their narrative of "Trump must be guilty."

Actual campaign rules and the context of campaign finance laws do NOT include non-disclosure agreements or other contracts, payments, arrangements or other private acts as campaign contributions. Private contracts are all normal behavior that is not required to be regulated or reported. The private contracts can be made in any manner or in any amount.

The public disclosure of Cohen's guilty plea arrangements was meant to put Trump on trial in the court of public opinion. With Cohen pleading guilty, the evidence will not be tested in a courtroom. Those out to get Trump can let the rumors fly among a populace that is ignorant of campaign finance laws. Even many attorneys are ignorant of campaign finance laws, which are almost always handled in civil court and with fines. It's an attempt once again by Democrats (just like with Kavanaugh) to try someone in the court of public opinion without due process and no presumption of innocence. Dems are trying to create an environment where they can feel safe in beginning impeachment over something that would never get through the court process.

Where impeachment is concerned, non-disclosure agreements (private contracts) that occurred before Trump was president are completely unrelated to the office of president. Earlier private contracts do not fall under the impeachment clause wording of "high crimes and misdemeanors" and did not occur while Trump was president. The president's duties are not affected by those earlier private contracts.

If Trump is re-elected in 2020, any charges against him regarding this non-disclosure agreement will automatically go away because the statute of limitations on them (5 years) will have expired. The GET TRUMP folks will have to dream up some other GET TRUMP charge.

In summary, the law and precedent are on Trump's side. That doesn't mean that it won't be tested in the courts, and it doesn't mean that LIBs and Dems will not use propaganda -- as they are currently doing -- to try to convict Trump in the court of public opinion. Also, even if Dems go down that road of impeachment in the House regarding this non-disclosure agreement, there will not be any conviction in the Senate. The impeachment effort will be for naught.

The cheerleaders for failure shouldn't get their hopes up.
Wow LS you seem so much more confident than the POTUS himself. Seems you know more than him and his advisors, you are so smart. It has been documented that Trump himself is concerned that he may be impeached, maybe you should give him a call to alleviate his concerns.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by tamada » December 12, 2018, 11:05 am

Lone Star wrote:
December 12, 2018, 10:40 am
For all of those getting themselves in a tizzy over the possibility that Trump will be indicted, ... shouldn't get their hopes up.
Any POTUS that needs such a 638 word 'defence' from a person who claims to being the reluctant Trump aficionado in the first place is ultimately doomed to deep national disgrace and faceless ignominy.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » December 13, 2018, 7:24 am

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Yes, Trump should not be worried. His work marches on for Americans and America First.

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