Ringroad/KK Hwy Intersection

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Re: Ringroad/KK Hwy Intersection

Post by Khun Paul » September 23, 2021, 5:44 pm

As I understand it from my Udonites ( Thais ) the sticking point is the SRT, suggesting being muted is a fly over encompassing the Railway crossing , problems with building feeder roads and relocation of most of the businesses on that corner ( scrap yard etc ) link roads etc. As you said a long time planning maybe nothing wiill come of it if they can put most of what the trucks take from KK to NK by train . Thought provoking it certainly is .



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Re: Ringroad/KK Hwy Intersection

Post by jackspratt » September 23, 2021, 7:16 pm

Khun Paul wrote:
September 23, 2021, 5:44 pm
As I understand it from my Udonites ( Thais ) the sticking point is the SRT, suggesting being muted is a fly over encompassing the Railway crossing , ............
Why are they suggesting it be kept it quiet?

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Re: Ringroad/KK Hwy Intersection

Post by Khun Paul » September 24, 2021, 6:53 am

There are times when wonders about the reading ability of some posters, I said i was inmformed not that it is set in stone and that the SRT are possibly part of the problem in enhancing this junction.

No-one said anything about it being kept quiet contrary to a certain poster who likes to stir the pot. Negotiations as I understand have been ongoing over this junction for years before anyone showed anything, that was parrt of the reason Honda took so long to rebuild. But of course certain people always think they know the answer and try to make a sensational remark which of course like many on here falls flat at the first rebuttal.

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Re: Ringroad/KK Hwy Intersection

Post by tamada » September 25, 2021, 4:27 pm

Khun Paul wrote:
September 17, 2021, 4:30 pm
I cannot wait for the daily reports of the situation should it happen, makes for better reading than many posts .
I always thought the Honda Junction as it is called has always been a bottleneck especially when the lorries and trailers are all wishing to go to Nong Khai .
There ios no doubt anything would ease the holdups, following on from the Ring Road being fully dual carriageway an upgrade of the busy junctions is needed to ensure smoother traffic flows.
One always wondered why halfway along the newly dualed ring road, why they did not put ion an underpass for straight on , they have the hill and the crossover traffic was not that onerous would not need a huge bridge, do away with a set of traffic lights.
As you say yourself, the traffic on the southern ring-road is "not that onerous" so why would under/overpasses make any sort of financial sense?

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Re: Ringroad/KK Hwy Intersection

Post by stattointhailand » September 25, 2021, 4:38 pm

tamada wrote:
September 25, 2021, 4:27 pm
Khun Paul wrote:
September 17, 2021, 4:30 pm
I cannot wait for the daily reports of the situation should it happen, makes for better reading than many posts .
I always thought the Honda Junction as it is called has always been a bottleneck especially when the lorries and trailers are all wishing to go to Nong Khai .
There ios no doubt anything would ease the holdups, following on from the Ring Road being fully dual carriageway an upgrade of the busy junctions is needed to ensure smoother traffic flows.
One always wondered why halfway along the newly dualed ring road, why they did not put ion an underpass for straight on , they have the hill and the crossover traffic was not that onerous would not need a huge bridge, do away with a set of traffic lights.
As you say yourself, the traffic on the southern ring-road is "not that onerous" so why would under/overpasses make any sort of financial sense?
It would if the people making the decisions happened to have other financial interests ....... may be in the construction or road building/maintenance business or similar :-k

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Re: Ringroad/KK Hwy Intersection

Post by FrazeeDK » September 25, 2021, 4:43 pm

or the government could be using a bit of foresight and planning for an expansion of traffic as routes north to China open up with the completion of the Lao-China Railway and extension further north of the Vientiane-Vang Vieng expressway. Five years from now Chinese semi-tractor trailers may be flooding down Route 2 towards Bangkok and long freight trains hauling goods all the way from China down the China-Thai railway to Mapthaput Port..
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Re: Ringroad/KK Hwy Intersection

Post by stattointhailand » September 25, 2021, 5:07 pm

Dave ..... I dont know how to put this, but ..... well ......... Would you like to re read the first ELEVEN words of your post "or the government could be using a bit of foresight and planning"....... even the most outrageous sci-fi writers would rewrite that to be a bit more believable :lol:

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Re: Ringroad/KK Hwy Intersection

Post by tamada » September 25, 2021, 5:26 pm

stattointhailand wrote:
September 25, 2021, 4:38 pm
tamada wrote:
September 25, 2021, 4:27 pm
Khun Paul wrote:
September 17, 2021, 4:30 pm
I cannot wait for the daily reports of the situation should it happen, makes for better reading than many posts .
I always thought the Honda Junction as it is called has always been a bottleneck especially when the lorries and trailers are all wishing to go to Nong Khai .
There ios no doubt anything would ease the holdups, following on from the Ring Road being fully dual carriageway an upgrade of the busy junctions is needed to ensure smoother traffic flows.
One always wondered why halfway along the newly dualed ring road, why they did not put ion an underpass for straight on , they have the hill and the crossover traffic was not that onerous would not need a huge bridge, do away with a set of traffic lights.
As you say yourself, the traffic on the southern ring-road is "not that onerous" so why would under/overpasses make any sort of financial sense?
It would if the people making the decisions happened to have other financial interests ....... may be in the construction or road building/maintenance business or similar :-k
From the rubbish job of the initial 'dualing' to the never ending story of patching and resurfacing, I reckon the contract for the expansion, repair and maintenance of the southern bypass has already been awarded in perpetuity.

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Re: Ringroad/KK Hwy Intersection

Post by Khun Paul » September 26, 2021, 7:29 am

tamada wrote:
September 25, 2021, 5:26 pm
stattointhailand wrote:
September 25, 2021, 4:38 pm
tamada wrote:
September 25, 2021, 4:27 pm
Khun Paul wrote:
September 17, 2021, 4:30 pm
I cannot wait for the daily reports of the situation should it happen, makes for better reading than many posts .
I always thought the Honda Junction as it is called has always been a bottleneck especially when the lorries and trailers are all wishing to go to Nong Khai .
There ios no doubt anything would ease the holdups, following on from the Ring Road being fully dual carriageway an upgrade of the busy junctions is needed to ensure smoother traffic flows.
One always wondered why halfway along the newly dualed ring road, why they did not put ion an underpass for straight on , they have the hill and the crossover traffic was not that onerous would not need a huge bridge, do away with a set of traffic lights.
As you say yourself, the traffic on the southern ring-road is "not that onerous" so why would under/overpasses make any sort of financial sense?
It would if the people making the decisions happened to have other financial interests ....... may be in the construction or road building/maintenance business or similar :-k
From the rubbish job of the initial 'dualing' to the never ending story of patching and resurfacing, I reckon the contract for the expansion, repair and maintenance of the southern bypass has already been awarded in perpetuity.
Very true, when it first opened I always wondered why , when thay have a natural hill, they did not make the Ring Road tunnel underneath that crossing, they dug opuit enouight to make the road and a little more would do away with the need for traffic lights at all, as for the road surfascing on the new carriageway , a friend of mine did one portion explaining how and stating that the other contractor cut corners, hence the disaster and road subsidence etc. Of course NOT one Highways inspection required or carried out, bikks just paid upon presentation without ever leaving the office. They had the land available to make a really good road with simple easy to use junctions and they cocked it up. Now knee jerk reactions to problems caused by poor implementation. Like the Airport junction, good ideas badly planned .

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