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Re: They cant take the critizim

Post by Doodoo » February 28, 2018, 8:29 pm

Bonanza
Don't have a clue you would have to ask someone who is wanting to go to the USA.
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Re: They cant take the critizim

Post by tamada » February 28, 2018, 10:25 pm

Bonanza wrote:
February 26, 2018, 12:23 pm
Doodoo -I believe that the NRA quote, "....a shameful display of political and civic cowardice." refers to those companies who are not genuinely against gun ownership, but are too scared of the liberal lobby to say so. Hence, they simply follow the popular trend. Their 'cowardice' is in their fear of saying that they are neither anti nor pro additional gun legislation. :D

In the UK, the shooting of a number of children in school in Dunblane led directly to the total ban on handguns.
This shooting could have been prevented had the police acted on information given to them. The findings of the inquiry have been sealed for 100 years. :shock:

Since that time gun crime in UK has risen every year. :(
...but school massacres have stopped.

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Re: They cant take the critizim

Post by kulsungkham » March 1, 2018, 2:55 am

The public report of the Dunblane shooting is not subject to the hundred year rule (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... 1/3386.pdf), however...

The 1991 report by Detective Sergeant Paul Hughes from the child protection unit at Bannockburn, wrote a report detailing the disturbing behaviour of a man called Thomas Hamilton. It recommended Hamilton be prosecuted for his conduct at a children's residential holiday camp, and recommended his firearms licence be revoked. Neither recommendation was acted upon.

The actual details of Mr Hughes's report - a ''voluminous'' work relating to Hamilton's activities and listing large numbers of children's names - were not released. And in 1996, after Hamilton killed 16 pupils and a teacher at Dunblane Primary School, Lord Cullen met the staff of the Scottish Records Office and recommended that the report be placed under 100-year closure.

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Re: They cant take the critizim

Post by sometimewoodworker » September 15, 2018, 7:44 am

Bonanza wrote:
February 26, 2018, 12:23 pm


In the UK, the shooting of a number of children in school in Dunblane

Since that time gun crime in UK has risen every year. :(
The Dunblane attack was a tragedy.

Please give a link to your sources about gun crime in the UK, as I'm sure you would not make a faulty or false claim on a subject like this.
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Re: They cant take the critizim

Post by yartims » September 15, 2018, 9:10 pm

true due to smuggled weapons from eastern europe ..uncontrolled migration again..the good guys had their weapons banned so only the crims have guns now

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Re: They cant take the critizim

Post by sometimewoodworker » September 16, 2018, 8:42 am

yartims wrote:
September 15, 2018, 9:10 pm
true due to smuggled weapons from eastern europe ..uncontrolled migration again..the good guys had their weapons banned so only the crims have guns now
What I think you are saying is that if everybody who wants a hand gun has one then it will be less gun crime is that correct?

If what I think you're saying is correct that would be why the USA has a Firearm-related death rate per 100,000 population per year of 11.96 that rate rate is at least 52 times greater than in the UK of 0.23 :shock:


The fact that police have to assume that everyone has a gun in the USA would also be a cause of the death rate of around 1000 people from police gunfire in 2015 while in the uk in 2014/15 in the uk there were 14,685 Operations with armed police 6 times when guns were fired and 1 death.

UK, complete hand gun ban in private ownership.

The numbers may not be absolutely correct as the US is afraid to compile accurate information but even the FBI information states a rate of justified deaths 44,100% higher than in the uk in 2015
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Re: They cant take the critizim

Post by sometimewoodworker » September 16, 2018, 9:04 am

tamada wrote:
February 28, 2018, 10:25 pm
Bonanza wrote:
February 26, 2018, 12:23 pm
Doodoo -I believe that the NRA quote, "....a shameful display of political and civic cowardice." refers to those companies who are not genuinely against gun ownership, but are too scared of the liberal lobby to say so. Hence, they simply follow the popular trend. Their 'cowardice' is in their fear of saying that they are neither anti nor pro additional gun legislation. :D

In the UK, the shooting of a number of children in school in Dunblane led directly to the total ban on handguns.
This shooting could have been prevented had the police acted on information given to them. The findings of the inquiry have been sealed for 100 years. :shock:

Since that time gun crime in UK has risen every year. :(
...but school massacres have stopped.
As have mass shootings; UK 3 since 1987, USA 90 between 1966 and 2012

The USA has had an average of 1 school shooting per week in 2018 (up to May 25) including 3 mass killings. (Source CNN )

After the first 2 UK mass shooting incidents gun laws were made more restricted

The USA has made gun laws less restrictive, (the lapse of the assault weapons ban)
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