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Re: Non Immigrant O or OA Visa

Post by tamada » November 29, 2019, 9:27 am

I am qualified for retirement but keep busy with consultant work while I still have some oil in my tank. Up until maybe 3 years ago, I had the pick of maybe 3 or 4 gigs a year that helped my avoid 90-day reports but more importantly, got me out of this arguably blighted Realm for a reality check. Last year, I did about 6 months work straight with a few very short breaks at home before taking a longish break back here. As happened on a prior long layover, the wheels begin to spin, small things begin to assume disproportionate importance and the place basically starts to do my head in. Before the oldest was in school, we would simply take spontaneous family vacations to break the monotony. Nowadays, that is hard to do with the ill-timed Thai school holiday schedule... see what I mean about relatively small things suddenly being big annoyances?! Anyway, during the current extended homestay, I did manage a couple of months of extensive home renovations and "honey do's" but as soon as there was an industry convention or meeting in Bangkok, Saigon or KL, or mates visiting Bangkok and Pattaya on holiday, I was gone!

Good luck to pipoz on staying in harness a bit longer. With an inevitable global recession, topping up the bank account is a bonus IMHO. Just keep in mind that there's increased scrutiny of those fronting up at Bangkok's airports on back-to-back tourist visas. Several oil patch guys, married and living here who have been doing 28/28 work tours in a third country and using either visa exmpt and SETV/METV entries have been bailed up to get the "correct" visa for their circumstances. I recall there may be an unwritten cap on how many SETV/METV entries once can do or maybe it's a restriction on how many one can get in regional embassies and consulates? The border out/in at Nong Khai still seems to be drama free but some other land borders have been on the avoid list for a few years already.



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Re: Non Immigrant O or OA Visa

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Re: Non Immigrant O or OA Visa

Post by pipoz4444 » November 29, 2019, 8:37 pm

tamada wrote:
November 29, 2019, 9:27 am
I am qualified for retirement but keep busy with consultant work while I still have some oil in my tank. Up until maybe 3 years ago, I had the pick of maybe 3 or 4 gigs a year that helped my avoid 90-day reports but more importantly, got me out of this arguably blighted Realm for a reality check. Last year, I did about 6 months work straight with a few very short breaks at home before taking a longish break back here. As happened on a prior long layover, the wheels begin to spin, small things begin to assume disproportionate importance and the place basically starts to do my head in. Before the oldest was in school, we would simply take spontaneous family vacations to break the monotony. Nowadays, that is hard to do with the ill-timed Thai school holiday schedule... see what I mean about relatively small things suddenly being big annoyances?! Anyway, during the current extended homestay, I did manage a couple of months of extensive home renovations and "honey do's" but as soon as there was an industry convention or meeting in Bangkok, Saigon or KL, or mates visiting Bangkok and Pattaya on holiday, I was gone!

Good luck to pipoz on staying in harness a bit longer. With an inevitable global recession, topping up the bank account is a bonus IMHO. Just keep in mind that there's increased scrutiny of those fronting up at Bangkok's airports on back-to-back tourist visas. Several oil patch guys, married and living here who have been doing 28/28 work tours in a third country and using either visa exmpt and SETV/METV entries have been bailed up to get the "correct" visa for their circumstances. I recall there may be an unwritten cap on how many SETV/METV entries once can do or maybe it's a restriction on how many one can get in regional embassies and consulates? The border out/in at Nong Khai still seems to be drama free but some other land borders have been on the avoid list for a few years already.
Thanks tamada, I suppose at some stage next year when my Non Imm O-A Multi Entry comes up for renewal/extension.

The Stamp they put in it, when I activated the Non Imm O-A Multi Entry, says 27 March 2020. Presumably I am due to show up somewhere in February 2020, to ask for this to be extended or take a trip out of Thailand in mid February to get my extra year.

As it is, my next visit back to Survarnahbumi will be at the end of the first week of February 2020 and I will only be staying for 4 days. I will pop into Udon Thani Immigration then and ask the question

Somehow, I suspect it will will get cancelled and I will then revert to just entering Thailand on a 30 Day Tourist Visa, thereafter, every 2 months.

Regarding the global recession or slow down or whatever, it is coming. History has shown it comes around every 9 or so years, in some Form or Shape, and we are past that due date. So yes, maybe another 2 - 4 years and it will hit, but which Countries it will affect and how it affects them, is uncertain.

The possibility of the Thai Baht never going back to TB 32 to the USD was another factor in my decision to go back to work. :-k :-k

If we are going to be stuck in the TB 30 or god help me the TB 29 bracket, then working longer become my contingency plan.

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Re: Non Immigrant O or OA Visa

Post by sometimewoodworker » November 29, 2019, 11:36 pm

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Re: Non Immigrant O or OA Visa

Post by sometimewoodworker » November 29, 2019, 11:47 pm

pipoz4444 wrote:
November 29, 2019, 8:37 pm

As it is, my next visit back to Survarnahbumi will be at the end of the first week of February 2020 and I will only be staying for 4 days. I will pop into Udon Thani Immigration then and ask the question

Somehow, I suspect it will will get cancelled and I will then revert to just entering Thailand on a 30 Day Tourist Visa, thereafter, every 2 months.
You will get a permission to stay that will be dated for 1 year, so February 2021, a multi reentry permit will let you keep that alive.

I suggest that this could be useful as immigration officers at Survarnahbumi and Don Muang are known to be refusing entry on visa exemption more often than in the past.
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Re: Non Immigrant O or OA Visa

Post by pipoz4444 » May 10, 2020, 11:43 am

Hi STWW

I never did get the extension of the permission to stay to February 2021

My Non Imm O-A Visa has a stamped expiry/end date of 29 March 2020

I last flew out of Bangkok on 11 February 2020 and didn't get time to go back and extend my Non Imm O-A Visa. It all turned to custard after that with the travel restrictions at the start of March 2020.

So that leaves me with an Expired/Out of Date, Non Imm O-A Visa, stuck off shore in another Country, unable to fly out of this Country at this time (because of their restrictions) and also unable to enter Thailand at this time (Because of Thailand's restrictions).

I have no idea what will happen when I next fly into Bangkok. Maybe they will simply just cancel my Non Imm O-A Visa and stick me back on to a Tourist Visa. Assuming one can ever enter Thailand again

I suppose I will have to start the process again, although next time around I think I will simply apply for an O Visa.

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Re: Non Immigrant O or OA Visa

Post by sometimewoodworker » May 10, 2020, 11:59 am

pipoz4444 wrote:
May 10, 2020, 11:43 am
Hi STWW

I never did get the extension of the permission to stay to February 2021

My Non Imm O-A Visa has a stamped expiry/end date of 29 March 2020

I last flew out of Bangkok on 11 February 2020 and didn't get time to go back and extend my Non Imm O-A Visa. It all turned to custard after that with the travel restrictions at the start of March 2020.

So that leaves me with an Expired/Out of Date, Non Imm O-A Visa, stuck off shore in another Country, unable to fly out of this Country at this time (because of their restrictions) and also unable to enter Thailand at this time (Because of Thailand's restrictions).

I have no idea what will happen when I next fly into Bangkok. Maybe they will simply just cancel my Non Imm O-A Visa and stick me back on to a Tourist Visa. Assuming one can ever enter Thailand again

I suppose I will have to start the process again, although next time around I think I will simply apply for an O Visa.

pipoz4444
I assume that you did not have a reentry permit when you flew out, if that is the case then you now have nothing as your visa expired 29 March 2020. There is nothing to cancel.

Once the flying restrictions are lifted you may find that visa exempt entry is not permitted and your only short term option is to get a tourist or Non-O/Non-OA visa. Don’t be surprised if there are health and insurance requirements added to all foreign entries to Thailand and all visas.
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Re: Non Immigrant O or OA Visa

Post by pipoz4444 » May 10, 2020, 12:20 pm

Thanks

Didn't know about a "Re entry Permit"? I just flew out as normal with then intention of flying back in.

Yes I expect that I will need to go onto a Non O Visa, which I presume I can do as a non married person

In all honesty, I wont be surprised at anything that the Thai Immigration come up with and am preparing for the eventual medical insurance requirements to enter Thailand.

The only question will be whether the Thais let you purchase your Medical Insurance from an overseas reputable Company or whether the Thais force you to get it from a Thai Insurance Company (one who wont give you insurance in the first place)


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Re: Non Immigrant O or OA Visa

Post by sometimewoodworker » May 10, 2020, 12:43 pm

pipoz4444 wrote:
May 10, 2020, 12:20 pm
Thanks

Didn't know about a "Re entry Permit"? I just flew out as normal with then intention of flying back in.

Yes I expect that I will need to go onto a Non O Visa, which I presume I can do as a non married person

In all honesty, I wont be surprised at anything that the Thai Immigration come up with and am preparing for the eventual medical insurance requirements to enter Thailand.

The only question will be whether the Thais let you purchase your Medical Insurance from an overseas reputable Company or whether the Thais force you to get it from a Thai Insurance Company (one who wont give you insurance in the first place)


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You would not have wanted a reentry permit with your planned return. Just luck that stoped it working.

Each embassy has their own rules for who can get a visa of any kind (as an example as a visitor to Japan the Thai embassy will not issue any visa [usually]) so you will need to check your with your local embassy.

If you can get a visa and it requires insurance to purchase it will be a local insurance not Thai, unless they are fans of Joseph Heller & Catch 22 :lol:
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