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Re: Trump addresses EU trade deficit

Post by glalt » August 11, 2018, 11:35 am

The great socialist experiment, the EU is doomed. The question is whether it will collapse sooner or later. The Euro is weakening quickly and you can bet that the EU will quickly make a level playing field for trade.

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Re: Trump addresses EU trade deficit

Post by Lone Star » August 11, 2018, 3:15 pm

glalt wrote:
August 11, 2018, 11:35 am
The great socialist experiment, the EU is doomed. The question is whether it will collapse sooner or later. The Euro is weakening quickly and you can bet that the EU will quickly make a level playing field for trade.
I would tend to agree. However, I never wished for it to be a failure, but I know the history of socialism, and you're correct. I believe it to be a great socialist experience between countries.
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Re: Trump addresses EU trade deficit

Post by Lone Star » August 11, 2018, 3:25 pm

Discussions with Mexico are going great. Canada not so much, but that's Canada's fault.

Trump's NAFTA strategy is simple. Talk and agree with those who will sit down and work toward free and fair trade. You can pretty much take it to the bank that NAFTA is dead. In order for NAFTA to have any hope of surviving, Canada would have to be part of the talks. They're not.

So Trump is talking with Mexico, and things are moving along nicely. There will be a bilateral agreement with Mexico. Canada will be offered a similar bilateral agreement (not the same as Mexico), and they can either take it or leave it.

Reuters has been following this pretty closely, and they have reported on Trump's work with Mexico and warnings to Canada for not wanting to sit down and talk. Trump has lavished praise upon the incoming president of Mexico for his willingness to deal.

If Canada gets cut off, that also cuts off all countries who try to go through Canada to get their goods into the US.

Trade is international -- as in worldwide.
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Re: Trump addresses EU trade deficit

Post by newtovillagelife » August 12, 2018, 7:54 am

Why isn't the NAFTA(Bi-Lateral) agreement between Mexico and the US, contingent on Mexico paying for the wall.

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Re: Trump addresses EU trade deficit

Post by Lone Star » August 12, 2018, 8:37 am

Erdogan of Turkey is now crying in the NY Times. 555

Erdogan's problems will stop when he releases Pastor Andrew Brunson, who is fast becoming the most expensive hostage in the history of hostage-taking. But the kidnappers are paying the price.

Erdogan makes a veiled threat of looking for new friends and allies. Going to leave NATO? Please go. Erdogan's Turkey cannot be trusted. Get out of NATO and go wherever you want to go.

But understand that Trump is not likely to back down. Either release Pastor Andrew Brunson, or continue to feel the pain of sanctions.
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Re: Trump addresses EU trade deficit

Post by papafarang » August 12, 2018, 9:27 am

Andrew Brunson is a conspirator and a terrorist as should be treated as so. Turkey should put him on trial . if he's done nothing wrong then he has nothing to worry about
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Re: Trump addresses EU trade deficit

Post by joudon » August 13, 2018, 6:08 am

Which planet are you on? A trial in Turkey after Erdogan sacked and replaced many judges with his stooges.
Chance of a fair trial range in Turkey fom little to zero.

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Re: Trump addresses EU trade deficit

Post by papafarang » August 13, 2018, 7:09 am

legal experts on other countries laws , not our place to do so . laws are different in every country , just because your a foreigner don't make you exempt from their laws. they say he was working against the state , I have no idea of what their evidence is , does any legal expert on here have evidence to prove otherwise ?
We might view a system as unjust … but it's not our country to judge. the other day in Saudi they beheaded a Burmese guy, after they then crucified his body in public. no outcry as now that is acceptable with the west, or America where 94% of defendants plead guilty , no jury ,just convicted and jailed . a video the other day I watched some poor guy pleading guilty and taking a two year sentence to avoid a possible life sentence, he was already sitting in jail and was given the two options ,which would you choose ? anyway after he got out it turned out they had DNA evidence , only problem with that was it was not his DNA ,all he knew was the prosecutor said they had DNA and he would be convicted.
couldn't afford a lawyer, couldn't afford bail and had no idea what the evidence was against him.
But saying that , not my country , and how they run their justice system is none of my business.
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Re: Trump addresses EU trade deficit

Post by Lone Star » August 13, 2018, 9:14 am

joudon wrote:
August 13, 2018, 6:08 am
Which planet are you on? A trial in Turkey after Erdogan sacked and replaced many judges with his stooges.
Chance of a fair trial range in Turkey fom little to zero.
I don't know if 'fair' is even in Turkey's legal lexicon.

Worth noting how quickly someone reverses their view 180 degrees when challenged, in order to try to win an argument from both sides.

One day, someone claims the pastor is a conspirator and a terrorist. Next day, the same someone says the evidence is unknown and no one knows the evidence. Quick to judge the pastor one day. Next day, not anyone's right to judge how countries carry out their legal processes.

Some will go to the extreme length of contradicting themselves in order to try to win an argument.
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Re: Trump addresses EU trade deficit

Post by papafarang » August 13, 2018, 11:36 am

Lone Star wrote:
August 13, 2018, 9:14 am
joudon wrote:
August 13, 2018, 6:08 am
Which planet are you on? A trial in Turkey after Erdogan sacked and replaced many judges with his stooges.
Chance of a fair trial range in Turkey fom little to zero.
I don't know if 'fair' is even in Turkey's legal lexicon.

Worth noting how quickly someone reverses their view 180 degrees when challenged, in order to try to win an argument from both sides.

One day, someone claims the pastor is a conspirator and a terrorist. Next day, the same someone says the evidence is unknown and no one knows the evidence. Quick to judge the pastor one day. Next day, not anyone's right to judge how countries carry out their legal processes.

Some will go to the extreme length of contradicting themselves in order to try to win an argument.
conspirator and terrorist was the description the prosecutor called him, you think I should change that to flower arranger and kite flyer ? I made no claim ,the Turkish prosecutor did, quick to judge :lol: . it's just how he's been described. :roll:
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Re: Trump addresses EU trade deficit

Post by joudon » August 13, 2018, 11:59 am

He will have been described by the prosecutor exactly what the prosecutor would have been told to describe him as. FGS Turkey is a military run country, and the courts will also deliver a verdict that they have been told to deliver. The word 'kangaroo' comes to mind.

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Re: Trump addresses EU trade deficit

Post by papafarang » August 13, 2018, 12:57 pm

unfortunately he's getting much better treatment as a terrorist than he would if say America labeled him a terrorist. remember what happens to them. after many years they are released without even being charged with anything . I wonder if they will waterboard Andrew Brunson and get a confession.
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Re: Trump addresses EU trade deficit

Post by Lone Star » August 13, 2018, 12:59 pm

joudon wrote:
August 13, 2018, 11:59 am
He will have been described by the prosecutor exactly what the prosecutor would have been told to describe him as. FGS Turkey is a military run country, and the courts will also deliver a verdict that they have been told to deliver. The word 'kangaroo' comes to mind.
We also have a new "kangaroo" standard to embrace when reading posts. :)

We can make a statement in our posts, not attribute the words to anyone, be called out on contradiction and then come back later and claim that the words belonged to someone else.

Now I'm wondering whose words are in all those other posts? 55555

Cognitive dissonance comes to mind.

So now, no one is to be held to what they post because they may be posting what someone else said. Time for everyone to tune up on their mind-reading and analytical skills, fellahs!

Not even a weasel would posit that excuse.

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Re: Trump addresses EU trade deficit

Post by Lone Star » August 13, 2018, 1:46 pm

The word coming out of DC is that Erdogan double-crossed Trump on a prisoner exchange.

This word coming after the shocking doubling of tariffs on Turkey with steel and aluminum. It was retaliation for the double-cross.

When Trump met Erdogan at the NATO meeting, they had friendly discussions and parted on good terms. Trump thought they had made a deal -- a Turkish citizen held by Israel for a US citizen held by Turkey.

On 14 July, Trump called Netanyahu and asked for the release of the Turkish citizen so that the swap could occur. The Turkish citizen was released the next day. Brunson was not released, and Turkish officials said no deal had been made -- but made more demands of the US for the release of Brunson.

These events led to the first round of sanctions, and the only way that Trump will ease up is if Bruson is released. In addition, there will be no more verbal agreements between the US and Turkey as long as Trump is in the White House and Erdogan is their leader. Everything will have to be in writing from here on out.

International trade and diplomacy has worldwide tentacles.

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Re: Trump addresses EU trade deficit

Post by papafarang » August 13, 2018, 1:54 pm

'We can make a statement in our posts, not attribute the words to anyone, be called out on contradiction and then come back later and claim that the words belonged to someone else."
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guess you don't read the news a lot then if I have to tell you why their holding him.

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