Will the EU succeed or fail?

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Re: Will the EU succeed or fail?

Post by stattointhailand » July 30, 2018, 3:53 pm

Unfortunately vince the centre parties never get a look in,, even though the majority would prefer to vote for them. Everyone is so scared that the Extreme Left or Extreme Right will get into power they get frightened into voting for the opposite

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Re: Will the EU succeed or fail?

Post by Lone Star » August 1, 2018, 7:40 pm

Well, some migrant numbers are starting to come in, and Italy's new government appears to be stemming the tide. Their migrant traffic is DOWN 80% over last year, but Spain's new socialist government has seen a 350% increase in migrant traffic.

All according to the UN Migration Agency.

Overall, migrant traffic into the EU is down about 50% from last year.

Different allowances from country to country is bound to have an overall effect on the continuity of the union.
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Re: Will the EU succeed or fail?

Post by vincemunday » August 12, 2018, 6:48 pm

Hugely significant poll, even allowing for +/- 2% this is bad news for Merkel.
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Re: Will the EU succeed or fail?

Post by yartims » August 13, 2018, 4:50 pm

implosion when brexit occurs ..they will have to draw in their horns on spending .greece and italy will tip over the edge

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Re: Will the EU succeed or fail?

Post by yartims » August 13, 2018, 4:52 pm

Pippa Malmgren, who is a leading US economic advisor, has ripped into business scaremongering around the Brexit uncertainty.

Dr Malmgren, who also serves as an advisor to the UK Department of International Trade, pointed out that foreign investment in the UK is still rising despite Project Fear.

She added that Britain is far better place to do business than Europe, where taxes and regulatory red-tape are an economic barrier to investment.

These remarks follows news that the pound has fallen to its lowest level against the dollar and the euro this year.
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At the same time, Britain’s economy rebounded in the second quarter this year despite Brexit uncertainty according to Office for National Statistics figures.

Dr Malmgren, who previously served in the White House under George W Bush, discussed the British economy in light of the growing risk of a no deal Brexit.

The businesswoman told Bloomberg: "The key thing to remember is that many of the investors are saying I may not like the uncertainty of Brexit, but it is not easy to make money on the continent.

"It is not an either-or situation. Foreign direct investment in the UK is still rising.

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Re: Will the EU succeed or fail?

Post by Lone Star » August 19, 2018, 1:31 pm

The UN continues to push its globalist agenda with propaganda.

The UN is claiming that there is no migrant crisis in Europe. Sounds like that Iraqi general during the Iraq War.

In this case, it's Filippo Grandi. He claims that while there was a migrant crisis in Germany a few years ago, there is no such crisis in Europe and that reports are just drama. And of course, he attacked the populist countries of Europe whose leaders want their borders secure and their citizens protected. And of course, as with all of Grandi's kind, he threw around those terms of 'xenophobia' and 'racist' to try to make everyone cower in fear and silence dissent.

Grandi and the UN spout all of this knowing that nearly 200,000 migrants applied for asylum just in Germany last year. Citizens are beginning to see their culture, values and social mores disappear as a result of each country's citizens becoming minorities in their own country.

There is nothing to indicate that population and economic trends are waning on the continents that most attempt to cross European borders. This migrant steam is never-ending.

This type of rhetoric doesn't help the EU strengthen. It weakens it.
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Re: Will the EU succeed or fail?

Post by Lone Star » August 19, 2018, 2:09 pm

More noise being made in Sweden by Populist Democrats who want to see Sweden leave the EU. The leader of one of the parties there (Akesson) believes, and I think rightly, that "no supranational body should have authority over the Swedish parliament."

Countries in Europe have lost control of what is best for their citizens.

“The EU is a supranational political union where other countries’ politicians, for which we cannot vote, and they have greater influence over Swedish legislation than I have in Sweden’s parliament. I find it very difficult to accept that situation.”

Akesson is not rejecting cooperation between European countries. He's rejecting the EU process. "It is clear that we must work together to solve common problems internationally, especially in Europe, and I have never been opposed to it." Akesson also characterized the EU as "a major source of corruption."

The migration issue is at the root of all of this Populist Democrat rejection of the EU. Akesson has accused the Migration Board of activism instead of doing their job by deporting unsuitable migrants.

This message is resonating with voters in Sweden. The Democrats look to gain as many as 31 seats in Parliament. However, it won't be enough to surpass the Social Democrats, who are projected to lose seats.
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Re: Will the EU succeed or fail?

Post by ThaiSurfer » August 19, 2018, 5:39 pm

Fail ? It has already, and horrendously.

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Re: Will the EU succeed or fail?

Post by yartims » August 20, 2018, 5:04 pm

Brexiteers have dismissed a £1m donation by the co-founder of Superdry, Julian Dunkerton, to the campaign group fighting for a second referendum.

On Saturday Dunkerton revealed that he was giving a substantial donation to the People’s Vote campaign to fund detailed polling on the issue of the UK’s departure from the EU.

Dunkerton said “it’s not too late”, adding: “I know we have a genuine chance to turn this around.”

But Brexiteers remain undeterred, insisting that more people than ever now wanted to leave the EU.

Pro-Brexit Tory MP Andrew Bridgen insisted Dunkerton’s polling efforts would make little difference as many former Remain voters were now swinging behind Leave.

“People’s Vote talk about democracy. What their declared intent is is to overturn the democratic decision of the 2016 referendum to leave the European Union,” Bridgen told BBC News.

“The way the EU have dealt with the UK Government in these negotiations, a large number of former Remain voters have come to the conclusion that we couldn’t possibly stay in this relationship any longer.
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“It would be rather like returning to an abusive relationship if we stayed in. We would be an absolute doormat.”

Writing in the Times, Dunkerton said: “The key to my success in business has been my instinct for when the mood is going to change — and I’m convinced we’re in one of those moments right now. It’s becoming clear there is no vision for Brexit and the politicians have made a mess of it.

“Increasingly, the public knows that Brexit is going to be a disaster. Maybe they just need to be given that little bit of hope that comes when they see how opinion is moving.”

The fashion tycoon said that if Brexit had happened 20 years earlier, then the company he co-founded “would never have become the global success that it is”.
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Julian Dunkerton, co-founder of Superdry, has given £1m to the People's Vote campaign.

He said that Superdry would have struggled to cope with negotiating customs and tariffs, adding: “Perhaps even more importantly, Europe was our staging post, because inside the single market we had no fear of opening a store in France or anywhere else in the EU.”

He continued: “Until Brexit raised its head, people were looking enviously at our country. The whole of Europe was saying it wanted to learn from us. Now we’re close to throwing away this amazing opportunity.

“Already, we have gone from the fastest-growing economy in the G7 to the slowest, while everyone I know in business is scaling back investment because Brexit is such a negative path for our country, both economically and emotionally.”

Meanwhile, Downing Street has confirmed that Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab will be travelling to Brussels on Tuesday for a further round of talks with the EU’s chief negotiator Michel Barnier.

On Thursday the Government will publish the first of a series of technical papers setting out the preparations it was making for a no-deal Brexit across dozens of areas of national life, from farming to finance.

Raab, who will deliver a keynote speech the same day in Westminster, said he believed a deal was still “by far the most likely outcome” but a responsible Government needed to set out the steps it was taking to mitigate the risks of a no-deal break.

The publication of the technical notes comes amid growing frustration among some sectors about the lack of clarity about the Government’s planning.

Road Haulage Association chief executive Richard Burnett said businesses were unable to plan for the future.

“We are seven months away from Brexit and there have not been any discussions or negotiations about access rights for British hauliers into the EU – certainly with a no-deal,” he told BBC Radio 4’s The World This Weekend.

“Businesses need to plan, they need certainty, they need clarity. At the moment we are not getting any of that.”

Additional reporting from the Press Association.

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Re: Will the EU succeed or fail?

Post by vincemunday » August 21, 2018, 8:42 am

IMO the Greek economy was thrown to the wolves to protect the banks their creditors (mainly German and French banks) because if Greece had gone bankrupt the contagion would have taken those banks with them and it would most likely of been the demise of the Euro. Three years on and many billions of Euro's in "loans" later the Greeks have been released from the shackles of EU austerity and been told to pretty much crack on, but of course the EU "will be keeping a close eye". Veroufakis, the ex finance minister and a very clever man, is now calling for preparations to exit the Euro and to go back to the Drachma, I'm not sure how that sits with the Greek people but to me it makes perfect sense, to have relinquished control of their currency has driven Greece to near bankruptcy. Now though, the creditor banks have been shored up and contagion is hardly the risk it was, my guess is the EU won't be too disappointed if Greece tries to make it's own way. Personally I hope they do, I think they'll be better off out of the EU.

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Re: Will the EU succeed or fail?

Post by Lone Star » August 21, 2018, 9:30 am

vincemunday wrote:
August 21, 2018, 8:42 am
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Veroufakis, the ex finance minister and a very clever man, is now calling for preparations to exit the Euro and to go back to the Drachma, I'm not sure how that sits with the Greek people but to me it makes perfect sense, to have relinquished control of their currency has driven Greece to near bankruptcy.

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Just another example of each country's loss of autonomy that grates on governments and their citizens.
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Re: Will the EU succeed or fail?

Post by vincemunday » September 7, 2018, 8:14 am

Just read a really good article from Bloomberg who aren't particularly known for political bias so we can pretty much accept this for what it is, it would seem things aren't quite as rosy economically in the EU as they might have us believe, interesting to also note that Macron has hit new lows in the popularity polls, it's difficult to see how he can hang on much longer with only 25% or so if the population behind him, he's definitely going to have trouble getting through his proposed cuts, the French don't like roughing it and with Paris beginning to look like a war zone in places, let's see how the next few weeks pan out.

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Re: Will the EU succeed or fail?

Post by papafarang » September 7, 2018, 8:38 am

with the state of most economies in Europe it don't look good . it should have stayed as the original 7 , what is it now , 28. and how many of the 28 can say their economy is great, very few. Oh well were out of it next year , climbing into the lifeboat before the ship sinks . let's hope it works out for us .
one thing that will be funny , the border with north and southern Ireland, for obvious reasons the british government won't put a hard border up so it will be left to the EU to do so, that will be quite funny when the Irish find out their Ireland has be partitioned by the EU . and they won't be happy about it. united Ireland will be even further away than it was before
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Re: Will the EU succeed or fail?

Post by rick » September 7, 2018, 5:34 pm

Ireland? Maybe not Dean. Last survey done in Northern Ireland showed 52% in favour of a United Ireland if their is going to be a hard border. Scotland also showed a Majority for independence if a hard Brexit. Little England, here we come!

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Re: Will the EU succeed or fail?

Post by dunroaming » September 9, 2018, 11:02 am

Of course EU will survive Germany finally have what they tried twice before and failed to have

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