I read bits and pieces of many different sources of information. Their credibility rests on their research and sources. I am skeptical of all of them.

The BBC weather forecast is spot on at least half the time, and their shipping forecast is even more accurate.

The Guardian football results are never wrong and I tend to agree with some of their opinion pieces. 'Jonathan Pie' is always on the ball... and if Private Eye was full of lies it would not have been taken to court so many times.

"The CIA OWNS everyone of any significance in the Major Media"--Former CIA Director William Colby
Why do so many make jokes about posting a Youtube video, when the MSM is nothing more than multi-millions dollar studios with unlimited funds to create videos and twist the truth and attack those who speak the truth? And so many will plan their meals around this fake media brainwashing everyday, and then go out and tell their friends what they saw on their daily dose of MK Ultra.
You should appreciate those indepentant sources. They spend their own funds many times and face relentless attacks.
These people make good videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h10FaTfkMEY
I don't trust the weather and the weather channel is owned by CIA. They create the weather and if there is no weather in store, they just may "create" some weather fear porn to keep the masses locked down. Its a great tool of control.

felixcat wrote: ↑

May 1, 2018, 3:33 pm

"The CIA OWNS everyone of any significance in the Major Media"--Former CIA Director William Colby

But is it true.... Did Colby really say that?

Chronology:
1. William Colby was the CIA Director from 1973 to 1976.
2. He died in April, 1996.
3. The first mention of this quote is in David McGowan’s 2000 book “Derailing Democracy”, Common Courage Press, 4 years after Colby’s death. One might have thought that a statement that powerful and controversial by a public figure, the head of the CIA, would have appeared sometime prior to four years after his death. In fact, one might have thought that it would generate controversy more or less immediately!


So, did Colby say it?
1. There is no primary source attribution or any source attribution at all, earlier than McGowan’s for this quote.
2. The quote appears prominently in his introduction (at page 13), with no first source attribution. Or, put slightly differently, there's nothing which would indicate anything other than that McGowan fabricated the quote.
3. Over 200 other quotes are cited in this book with first source attribution, but not Colby’s.
4. Another quote which appears in McGowan's book without first source attribution is one from Lincoln (at page 33), which is now known to be a lie. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/abrah ... -prophecy/
5. McGowan was a well known skeptic and conspiracy theorist who has weighed in with his own theories of everything from Lincoln's assassination to 9-11 to the Boston Marathon Bombing and everything in between.

This topic hitting the trash bin, too.

Paul, your trying to derail a topic with senseless arguement.
What do you want? A live interview with the guy?
And most know Snopes is a husband and wife working out of their home. Ask them to provide proof of everything they say.

felixcat wrote: ↑

May 1, 2018, 9:47 pm

Paul, your trying to derail a topic with senseless arguement. What do you want? A live interview with the guy?

So I gather that you don't know know that McGowan died in 2015? How about any mention at all of this alleged statement by Colby while he was alive, not years after his death?

Senseless argument? Why, because I've asked you to back up one of your allegations?

Don't like Snopes? How about Metabunk, which also debunks the statement? Or "International Skeptics"? Same result, there's no evidence that Colby ever said it.

Look, Felix, I know that you do a lot of research on the internet. Can you find any source for this alleged quote other than McGowan?

Udon Map wrote: ↑

May 2, 2018, 7:34 am

felixcat wrote: ↑

May 1, 2018, 9:47 pm

Paul, your trying to derail a topic with senseless arguement. What do you want? A live interview with the guy?

So I gather that you don't know know that McGowan died in 2015? How about any mention at all of this alleged statement by Colby while he was alive, not years after his death?

Senseless argument? Why, because I've asked you to back up one of your allegations?

Don't like Snopes? How about Metabunk, which also debunks the statement? Or "International Skeptics"? Same result, there's no evidence that Colby ever said it.

Look, Felix, I know that you do a lot of research on the internet. Can you find any source for this alleged quote other than McGowan?

Hold on.... he's looking for a youtube to back up the claim.

TRUST? None. They all have an agenda and a point of view that they are selling. Of course, if they agree with me they are plausible, but trustworthy. NEVER.

Yesterday, Donald Trump was seen walking on water. Today, CNN reported that "Trump can't swim."

So, naturally, he has to walk on the water.

thighlander wrote: ↑

May 4, 2018, 5:04 am

Yesterday, Donald Trump was seen walking on water. Today, CNN reported that "Trump can't swim."

Fox are saying that he sacked the swimming instructor

thighlander wrote: ↑

May 4, 2018, 5:04 am

Yesterday, Donald Trump was seen walking on water. Today, CNN reported that "Trump can't swim."

And the Daily Record commented, "---- floats!"

WoW,I'm gone a couple days and you people turn my thread into Lone Stars "Will trump make the grade" and Lone Star isn't even here. Lets get it repaired.....
My Moderator Friend has asked "Look, Felix, I know that you do a lot of research on the internet. Can you find any source for this alleged quote other than McGowan?" I do have an "attachment" of many people protesting, holding up a large banner that reads "The CIA OWNS everyone of any significance in the Major Media"--Former CIA Director William Colby. Would that be relevent? But anyways, what if we just took off "Former CIA Director William Colby" and just show "The CIA OWNS everyone of any significance in the Major Media". Would everyone agree. then? This is basically where I was going with this thread. I would assume if Colby did say this, it was probably banned from yours and my eyes. As far as your Award Winning "Snoopes" (in your dreams), that is nothing less than just normal "mopping up"of the crumbs after the man was dead. Paul, you might like Babylon Bee for "facts" or "Before its News.com". BIN lists things before they hit mainstream, follow them, update them in realtime, and tell whether it was true or fake news. BTW, you did know Snoopes got busted for taking money to "alter" the truth, right? The War is on for our Minds..(updates coming soon) Sorry, no Youtube videos. Why don't people attack MSM for their expensive videos? They got all the high paid actors and sparkly lights and "Breaking News" flashes. Hope that helps.....

Twice-weekly news analysis. Listen to this a couple of times and you will not bother with MSM again.

John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry, No Agenda podcast
http://www.noagendashow.com/

felixcat wrote: ↑

May 5, 2018, 7:34 pm

WoW,I'm gone a couple days and you people turn my thread into Lone Stars "Will trump make the grade" and Lone Star isn't even here. Lets get it repaired.....

My Moderator Friend has asked "Look, Felix, I know that you do a lot of research on the internet. Can you find any source for this alleged quote other than McGowan?" I do have an "attachment" of many people protesting, holding up a large banner that reads "The CIA OWNS everyone of any significance in the Major Media"--Former CIA Director William Colby. Would that be relevent?

No. Are you serious? Something written on a sign held up at a protest rally means that it must be true? Right.

felixcat wrote: ↑

May 5, 2018, 7:34 pm

But anyways, what if we just took off "Former CIA Director William Colby" and just show "The CIA OWNS everyone of any significance in the Major Media". Would everyone agree. then? This is basically where I was going with this thread.

But by supporting your proposition with what now appears to be a fabricated quote, you have severely impacted the credibility of your claim. You repeatedly assail others for not checking their facts. Don't you?

felixcat wrote: ↑

May 5, 2018, 7:34 pm

As far as your Award Winning "Snoopes" (in your dreams), that is nothing less than just normal "mopping up"of the crumbs after the man was dead.

Yes, there are legitimate questions about Snopes (https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleeta ... ea6bf5227f, for example); however, as you may recall, Snopes was only one of several similar websites which debunked the alleged Colby statement.

In no particular order. BBC, ABC (leftie), The Australian (yep Murdoch but OK), Sydney Morning Herald (Leftie), Washington Post, Christian Science Monitor, The Guardian (leftie), Washington Post, Al Jazerra, The Straights Times.

To be avoided, Fox News, The Sydney Telecrap, Fox News, The National Enquirer, Fox News....and, ahem...Fox News

From an Australian perspective.

The WaPo takes a nasty jab at Thailand and those, who visit her, every chance it gets. The Catholic Church always gets a free pass, and never mind that DC has the worst school system in the country and scary high crime rates, under complete leftie control for decades.

Actually Essex, every Media that is Jewish controlled should be avoided.
Oh, sorry, that wouldn't leave many left to choose from.
Thats why I stick with Independant news.

You know, I didn't realize when I posted this, but it was "What main Stream media do you trust?".
That is not only the MSM News channels, but it also encounters the social media platforms.
They are all connected and should be viewed as such. My friends at Truthstreammedia, just posted a new video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J2jgLX6XKc View it and then you will probably have a eye opening experience of how you/we all have been pulled into this dolphamine induced sparatic , messageing leaving,selfie, life.
When you eyes are open, you will feel like a complete "donkey". Take care, hope this helps...