These look to be quite an interesting addition to the US/SK arsenal, it would be bit of a bugger if they took out all the communications before an offensive attack, a huge spanner in NK's works.

South Korea Builds 'Blackout Bombs' against Pyongyang


https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAtbNW7

if it was so easy, why has it not been done ? don't you all realise that modern warfare has been countered by guerilla warfare , and what no one thinks kim has that plan , saddam was easy...er no still going on , afganistan was a walk in the park with all the tech and fire power ....oh bad example ..still at it how about gaddafi ..... nope . even after dropping bombs ,who's going over to finish them off . if we had not pulled out of Vietnam, it could be still rumbling. the only way to win is kill them all...25,000,000 of them, ain't happening

Absolutely agree, so many walks in the park have turned out to be protracted wars. The HUGE difference here is the nuclear threat and what's more I believe that Kim is bonkers enough to hit the button so if the US decided a preemptive strike is the only way to protect its mainland I'm with them. It makes me laugh when people say Trump is driving us into WW3, what about Kim, I think he has a lot to do with it too? Also, people need to review what constitutes a World War, it's unlikely any other country other than SK will get involved, its unlikely that Africa and Europe will be a part of it and will China and Russia actually side with NK? I doubt it.

Here’s a subject on which I hope you guys will appreciate my two cents, since I work with the US Special Forces command here in Korea for the past umpteen years, and have served here in uniform back in the 70’s and 80’s.
KJU’s main objective is to remain in power until he grows old and gray. Same objective as his father’s (KJI) and grandfather’s (KIS).
The rhetoric and posturing against the US is just that. Simply put, he is surrounded by very old regime advisors who are in their 70’s and 80’s, and he must appease them; to show them that he’s carrying the anti US torch. On the other side of the coin however, you just heard that he put his sister in charge of the Politburo. These two have been educated in Switzerland, and are the “new nK generation”...so to speak. It’s all about economics. If you dig deeper you’ll see that in recent years there have sprouted more private companies within nK, like taxi companies, tour companies, hotels, etc. The Western economic concept is very appealing to KJU. As the old guard is dying off, or replaced, (or executed) as the case may be, KJU is replacing them with younger advisors. Another indication that the saber rattling is an appeasement, is that if you have noticed each of the launches he’s made keep originating further west than the previous one. He wants to ensure that none of these missiles hit Japan by chance, because he knows that, as some of you noted here, his country will be erased from the planet by the USAF.
I can tell you this emphatically; none of us who live and work here are in the least bit concerned of a nK attack of any sort.
Just my educated two cents
Papa Z

Let's hope you're correct, no one in their right mind wants to see a nuclear strike either way but I personally think Kim is as nutty as a box of frogs, let's hope we never have my thoughts confirmed.

Papa z.
Great comments and from what ive read i cant disagree with you.
We still have 1 major problem to deal with though.

A rouge state, non member of the UN is building an arsenal of nuclear weapons.
No one know kims state of mind at any one time or what his reactions will be to any particular event.
We can only go on his past statements, which does not bode well.
So, does the world let him continue on this path or not?

Thats the question we need answered.
Mick

Mickojak,
A great question indeed.
The current US policy on nK is the same it has been since the armistice: we will not attack them unless provoked by them attacking our allies (the ROK and or Japan).
Ninety percent of the world’s population believe that the US is looking for a fight with nK. This couldn’t be the furthest from the truth. As a matter of fact, I can tell you from first hand experience that the US military commands here in Korea spend their time day in and day out trying to dissuade the ROKs from attacking nK, because these guys here are ready to march straight into PY and cut little puffed daddy’s ball off. Problem is, they’re not ready to embark on such a mission, militarily speaking.
So, in a nutshell, the US will do nothing unless provoked, and even then the lead would fall on the ROK.
Papa Z

PAPA Z wrote: ↑

October 10, 2017, 4:10 pm

Mickojak,
A great question indeed.
As a matter of fact, I can tell you from first hand experience that the US military commands here in Korea spend their time day in and day out trying to dissuade the ROKs from attacking nK,So, in a nutshell, the US will do nothing unless provoked, and even then the lead would fall on the ROK.
Papa Z

Maybe true , but the Moron in the White house does not seem to be reading from the same book as his generals. Did Iraq or did North Viet Nam provoked the USA ? The so called gulf of Tonkin incident, never took place. The Iraq, WMD case was concocted by the White House. What will the White House come up with this time ??

the-monk,
Trump bash, America bash much?
No we were not provoked in Vietnam. However, the South asked for assistance and we obliged.
Whatever the reasons, a totally different era of politics then.
And I won’t even dignify your Iraq comment with answer since I served in Dessert Storm, as a soldier and in the current war as a civilian contractor.
If you’re American, glad you left.

Papa Z

Wrong Mr Papa Z no bashing here, just stating some obvious historical facts. If i am American, i cannot express the truth.. is that what you re saying.. So the truth is UN-American.... Sometimes the truth must be hurting a great deal.. . Should All the Americans not believing the Washington-Hollywood war machine propaganda leave..... America the land of the FREE as long as you agree with me... WOW...

PAPA Z wrote: ↑

October 10, 2017, 5:03 pm

the-monk,
Trump bash, America bash much?
No we were not provoked in Vietnam. However, the South asked for assistance and we obliged.
Whatever the reasons, a totally different era of politics then.
And I won’t even dignify your Iraq comment with answer since I served in Dessert Storm, as a soldier and in the current war as a civilian contractor.
If you’re American, glad you left.

Papa Z

The South asked for assistance? More like a hangover from bingeing on too much McCarthyism back home and helping a WW2 ally regain some semblance of national pride. Unfortunately nobody thought that France would just pull out and leave the US holding the baby. Maybe they should have studied a bit of European history to check on the famous French resolve first.

Dessert Storm?

Is that the one where y'all can have your cake and eat it too?

Monk
What makes your comments the “truth” and mine not? Don’t twist my words in an effort to be coy.
Z

Tamada,
I stand corrected. Post retracted.
Auto correct is a b#%h. Didn’t notice it.
Not gonna get over myself any time soon.
It’s a old dog/new trick kinda thing.
Z

No Tam it was a Country with a massive Thirst for OIL that got nervous they could lose their oil revenue in the Middle East. It was nothing to do with WMD it was purely the loss of Oil if it fell into Saddam's hand he would not have stopped at Kuwait. Same reason the Allies marched into Tunisia. If Genocide is being committed against civilians in other Countries then yes the West should send forces in to stop it. Oher than that its none of our Business, and we should stay away.

PAPA Z wrote: ↑

October 10, 2017, 9:39 pm

Hey Tamada,
How old are you? 3-4? Pretty indignant to make jokes of one’s military service. Suppose it’s easy for those who’ve never had the privilidge to serve their country. I don’t know if you have or not, but I’m a bettin man and I’d bet you haven’t.
Sad, really sad excuse of a man.
Z

Desert: a region so arid because of little rainfall that it supports only sparse and widely spaced vegetation or no vegetation at all.

Dessert: A confectionery course that concludes a main meal. The course usually consists of sweet foods, and possibly a beverage.

Privilidge? You seriously need to get over yourself.

BTW, what was your GPA?

Tamada,
I stand corrected. Post retracted.
Auto correct is a b#%h. Didn’t notice it.
Not gonna get over myself any time soon.
It’s a old dog/new trick kinda thing.
Z

President Trump is a far better leader than is being described here. It is understandable why some have a poor opinion of him as progressives, especially the media have been twisting the truth and fabricating lies nonstop. And they are not very shy about this and are often found bragging about their ultra-left bias.

For example: Nick Dudich, Audience Strategy Editor for NYT Video, Says the Times Slants Anti-Trump News to the Front Page, "Oh, we always do." Claims to Be "Gatekeeper" for New York Times Videos: "My imprint is on every video we do."
Worked for Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama Campaigns. Admits He Won't Be Objective, "That's why I'm here [at the NYT]."
Read the rest at https://breaking.projectveritas.com/NYTimes1.html

PAPA Z wrote: ↑

October 11, 2017, 4:04 am

Tamada,
I stand corrected. Post retracted.
Auto correct is a b#%h. Didn’t notice it.
Not gonna get over myself any time soon.
It’s a old dog/new trick kinda thing.
Z

No sweat Z and speaking as an old dog, there's absolutely nothing wrong with being an old dog. I can get arsey these days when I step on my own cock.

You made salient points coming from having front-row seats up there. Your view on the generational minefield that KJU is picking his way through while imperceptibly nudging his country towards their own flavor of communism that embraces a "Western economic concept" is insightful. Hell, it's worked for the other Communist pariahs of Vietnam and (work in progress pending) Cuba. It appears he has to assuage the remaining military gerontocracy that served under his forebears or risk being fed to the pigs. Just how many more 'campaign' medals does this guy have to hand out?!

Meanwhile, south of the border, the South Koreans do seem mostly indifferent towards the whole thing which has been wrought from years under the ebb and flow of threats from successive generations of Kims.

The following article made a bit more sense of why it appears that the Americans appear to fear war with North Korea more than South Koreans do. Note that in this context, 'fear' means that most Americans think that a war is more likely than most South Koreans do.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... im-jong-un

"In South Korea we’re scared but we’ve normalised the fear.We’re not indifferent to the threats from North Korea: the fear is so deep it prevents us showing any interest" claims Haeryun Kang, managing editor of English-language news outlet Korea Exposé.

I was unaware of the reverse censorship referred to where South Koreans cannot freely access information or internet from their northern kin. I always thought that controlling what your people see, hear and read was only the remit of the hermit kingdom.

"The “red scare” is still prevalent in political discourse, especially in the rhetoric of the conservatives, who adopt a more hardline approach to Pyongyang."

Ultimately, this current stand-off is ill-timed... not saying there's any good time to have a nuclear-tipped "high noon" moment but.

"The problem is the South Korean indifference comes at a time of global uncertainty. Donald Trump is an inconsistent president; China’s role is still suspiciously ambiguous; Moon Jae-in, the South Korean president, is trying to dramatically reverse his conservative predecessor’s policies. Meanwhile, Kim Jong-un’s regime has tested more missiles in the past six years than his forefathers did in six decades."

In that mix, there's a relatively new, liberal South Korean government trying to unpick the more hard-line policies of their conservative predecessor regarding North Korea. That sounds quite familiar but hey, that's democracy.

From another source: http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/839 ... e-and-fury

"South Korean president Moon Jae-in believes the best way to solve the North Korean nuclear crisis is engagement of the sort that two past liberal leaders used to win historic summits with Pyongyang."

Yes, the 'problem' never ever went away completely but progress and a local peace prevailed. A young, South Korean nurse said “I’m scared of both [leaders], but I’m mostly scared of what Donald Trump would do. No US leader has ever personally targeted North Korea’s leadership this directly before, because they knew that it doesn’t mean anything. Trump seems like a person who would do something to prove that he’s different.”

I see it as two leaders with similar feelings of insecurity. This has been a trans-generational trait of the Kim dynasty for as long as I can recall. Whenever times got tough (like after another national drought and farming disaster) or they simply need world attention (maybe some old generals are having secret meetings) the table-banging and sabre rattling would ultimately see some sort of appeasement or hand-out in the shape of an approved easing of an export sanction or a wedge of US$ and rice from China... and an old general or two gets shot or fed to the pigs. On the other hand, I don't think the White House has witnessed an insecure occupant before. Yes, there's been indecisive and wishy-washy leadership; all democracies have at least a couple they prefer not to talk about. But the current POTUS appears cut from a completely different cloth from (most of) his forebears but it's not all good news IMHO. Yes, insecurity is something that we all possess to some degree but in my experience in a totally non-military working life in the oil patch, the insecure bosses are the absolute worst and most dangerous. In my line of work, they don't last long either.

Either way sir, you stay safe up there.

TJ wrote: ↑

October 11, 2017, 4:28 am

President Trump is a far better leader than is being described here. It is understandable why some have a poor opinion of him as progressives, especially the media have been twisting the truth and fabricating lies nonstop. And they are not very shy about this and are often found bragging about their ultra-left bias.

For example: Nick Dudich, Audience Strategy Editor for NYT Video, Says the Times Slants Anti-Trump News to the Front Page, "Oh, we always do." Claims to Be "Gatekeeper" for New York Times Videos: "My imprint is on every video we do."
Worked for Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama Campaigns. Admits He Won't Be Objective, "That's why I'm here [at the NYT]."
Read the rest at https://breaking.projectveritas.com/NYTimes1.html

Solely in the interests of keeping this fair and balanced...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... ion&wpmk=1

^Yes. That is an excellent example of vile progressive propaganda and typical of Washington Post progressive political articles.