Will the EU succeed or fail?
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Exactly . Just like the Germans will not see 30%of their car production slide. Can you imagine the social chaos Germany would suffer if their car plants went on a 3 day week . Never going to happen.
All this brexit blundering is smoke and mirrors
All this brexit blundering is smoke and mirrors
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france is like blighty in the 70s with wildcat strikes and unruly farmers ready to take to the streets ..no french gumment has ever managed to change things in this respect ..macron would be in deep trouble with no deal
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A huge development that's not really being very widely reported is an attempt by Steve Baker to make the backstop illegal, should he succeed and there's every possibility he will, its game over for Theresa May and her Chequers plan, she's been lucky so far but I can't see how she could weather the upcoming storm. My worry is that she so cherishes being PM that a malicious goodbye might occur with her calling a general election which could result in a Labour government run by Corbyn, Abbott etc, a scary prospect in itself.
Leading Brexiter tries to kill Northern Ireland backstop http://www.itv.com/news/2018-10-20/lead ... -backstop/
Leading Brexiter tries to kill Northern Ireland backstop http://www.itv.com/news/2018-10-20/lead ... -backstop/
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"What the leading Brexiter, Baker - who organises the European Research Group of Tory MPs - is doing more precisely is making it impossible for the backstop to be introduced without the approval of the Northern Ireland Assembly.
His reasonable presumption is that this would never happen because a) it is in abeyance with no timetable to be restored and b) even if it was restored the DUP would never vote for it.
But in making the backstop only applicable if the devolved government gave assent, he makes it harder for May to reject his amendments."
That could well and truly blow the wheels clean off May's cherished Chequersmobile and maybe more.
His reasonable presumption is that this would never happen because a) it is in abeyance with no timetable to be restored and b) even if it was restored the DUP would never vote for it.
But in making the backstop only applicable if the devolved government gave assent, he makes it harder for May to reject his amendments."
That could well and truly blow the wheels clean off May's cherished Chequersmobile and maybe more.
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Teresa the appeaser says its 95% done and dusted so far but we wait and see
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The Titanic was 100 % done . Didnt stop it sinking though.
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No confidence in Mrs May?
Let's hope this is correct! Westmonster tend to be more right than they are wrong....
Apparently a vote of no confidence in Theresa May has been triggered.
https://www.westmonster.com/48-letters- ... s-claimed/
Apparently a vote of no confidence in Theresa May has been triggered.
https://www.westmonster.com/48-letters- ... s-claimed/
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No confidence in Mrs May? For now.....
Apparently there has been a retraction, for now, but apparently it's very close.
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At what point do Italy grow a pair and stand up to the EU? Italy, a once proud country with a history of commerce and democracy going back thousands of years handing their country over to the EU. This is EXACTLY why we need Brexit, if a country can't control its own currency and its own budget it's no longer a country, it's a state. The Northern states have a habit of controlling the Southern states fiscally, why on earth do they tolerate it?
Italy's budget rejected by European Commission
http://news.sky.com/story/italys-budget ... n-11533281
Italy's budget rejected by European Commission
http://news.sky.com/story/italys-budget ... n-11533281
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The Italian Government are only carrying out what was promised in their election manifesto. The EU dont like it so trying to force a change by threats of fiscal punishment. Bet there are a few in the EU upper echelons thinking this is what happens when people are allowed to vote democratically (Brexit is another example) Why dont we just stop the people voting on anything and just let us EU Superbeings make all the decisions, after all we are never wrong.
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That's EXACTLY what they want, all budgetary decisions and interest rates to be made in one centralised area and in a way that might suit some of the poorer states, putting everyone on a level footing might actually help someone like Greece because you couldn't just put one country in emergency measures without putting them all in it, can you imagine the French and Germans if they were put under austerity measures? They would go mad! Of course it can't happen, deep down every country has a national identity that they want to maintain and some areas they are more fiercely protective than others, Catalan, Bavaria etc. The bloc could survive but as a trading bloc not as a United States of Europe.
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Hypocrites the lot of them . Earlier this year when Catalonia voted for independence from Spain , the E U insisted that its not possible under their rules and couldnt happen .
Turn the clock forward to brexit and they are more than happy to see Ulster divided from the rest of the U K .
As for Italy , well their deputy Prime minister said they will go ahead with their budget anyway , and all the E U achieved was to piss more Italians off .
Turn the clock forward to brexit and they are more than happy to see Ulster divided from the rest of the U K .
As for Italy , well their deputy Prime minister said they will go ahead with their budget anyway , and all the E U achieved was to piss more Italians off .
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italian pensioners are likely to get clobbered by no funds
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The United States of America is older than Italy. The USA is older than Germany, too. Don't they teach history in your schools?vincemunday wrote: ↑October 24, 2018, 6:29 ama once proud country with a history of commerce and democracy going back thousands of years
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'With global markets teetering thanks to Donald Trump’s trade war on China, the current impasse could not come at a worse moment for the eurozone. Yet Brussels is demonstrating that its unelected officials blind ideology still overrides democracy. And you wonder why Britain voted to leave.'
This is an extract from an article in the Mail Online. Demonstrates just how the Dictatorship views its member Countries ( The EU likes to call them States) As the 3rd largest economy in EU land but with huge debts to the German Central Bank commonly known as the ECB, net unemployment slightly under 10% and more worrying youth unemployment at over 30% the Italians must wonder what has happened to the EU dream. It is actually succeeding, Germany has managed to buy up most of Greece. No doubt that they also own a fair chunk of the East European national assets as well and now Italy is in their sights. All without a shot being fired.
This is an extract from an article in the Mail Online. Demonstrates just how the Dictatorship views its member Countries ( The EU likes to call them States) As the 3rd largest economy in EU land but with huge debts to the German Central Bank commonly known as the ECB, net unemployment slightly under 10% and more worrying youth unemployment at over 30% the Italians must wonder what has happened to the EU dream. It is actually succeeding, Germany has managed to buy up most of Greece. No doubt that they also own a fair chunk of the East European national assets as well and now Italy is in their sights. All without a shot being fired.
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How does this Chicken Little scenario impact the EU? If the EU wasn't riding US coattails they might be more immune to the re-balancing of third-nation trade deals. The duplicity of the EU is remarkable -- they've formed a union to better compete with a superior opponent, and simultaneously whine when that opponent moves to improve its position.
Meanwhile all the host countries are waking up to the reality of their parasitic gorilla.
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It looks like the EU may have met their match with Salvini, he is refusing "to even change a comma" of their budget and hinting he might even try to replace Junker, best he steps up to the plate on his drinking capabilities then....
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/10 ... pean-union
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/10 ... pean-union
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Loved the video of the press conference when they actually used a shoe to symbolically stamp on the EU demands paper. Wish we had people with those kind of gonads in charge of the Brit negotiations.
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Here's your starter for ten... a 2-part question so pay attention.Giggle wrote: ↑October 25, 2018, 6:03 pmThe United States of America is older than Italy. The USA is older than Germany, too. Don't they teach history in your schools?vincemunday wrote: ↑October 24, 2018, 6:29 ama once proud country with a history of commerce and democracy going back thousands of years
1. What nationality was Christopher Columbus?
2. What did he discover?