Will Thialand law become more user friendly for retirees.

Post by **BKKSTAN** » September 11, 2006, 8:48 am

ray23 wrote:Yes that is a biggy, but a closer look at thier history will show that they have infact had foriegn countries here with heavy power bases, dating back several centuries. But they choose not to see that. Based on the research Ml. Manich Jumsai History of Thailand and Cambodia. a Thia historian all the region past China to the sea was at one time Thialand. His is a very interesting read as his research is based on research from documents of time.

However even getting a Thai professor to address that aspect of thier history would be next to impossible. They ses as they wish to see it. For that reason alone you may be very correct.

Besides the pride involved regarding an individual(a remarkable example of goodness),hanging on to this false history is the cornerstone to their nationalistic pride!Imagine what would happen to teachers or politicians that proclaimed accurate history to the Thais!

Post by **Bump** » September 11, 2006, 11:35 am

Ok guys this is not my thing as I mentioned so I'm out of it, I certainly believe there are many more out there that could actual contribute something of value, please do I enjoy learning just not debating

Post by **banpaeng** » September 11, 2006, 11:44 am

Don't run off Ray.

Here is the link to the place in Mexico. Looked at their houses and they run from 50k to 1.2 mil US.

Stick with my rent here in Thailand.

Post by **Bump** » September 11, 2006, 3:00 pm

I'm not running off because of that just not my thing, you guys have fun

Post by **BKKSTAN** » September 11, 2006, 3:30 pm

Overall I think that Thailand is ''falang friendly''.Can't think of many resonable changes that would make it more friendly.

I think that if they allowed ownership of land for personal use,it would provide more security for us.

Post by **Bump** » September 11, 2006, 6:20 pm

How about a real retirement visa?

It's funny I don't worry about the land issues as I have been through a divorce where I got the property anyway

Post by **willyboy** » September 12, 2006, 8:20 pm

Did anyone come to a conclusion with this debate?

I thought it was about whether retiring to Thailand would become more user friendly? was there a conclusion?

I see Mexico got discussed, along with Eastern Europe, Phillipines, Malaysia, Equador and Cambodia!

Post by **Bump** » September 12, 2006, 8:54 pm

Get em Willyboy get it back on track, heck no body wanted to play to restictive I suppose. Interesting timing with all the visa activity going on.

Wonder if this will mean more thightening for retirees or things relaxing a bit down line, what do you think?

My guess things will be tighter for a few years and then relax again.

But the ultimate question in my mind was if they will eventually go to a true retirement visa, I was hoping but things are not pointing that way at the moment, are they

There still is the residency permit closer to actually being able to live here, without as many restrictions and a longer period of time.

Post by **BKKSTAN** » September 12, 2006, 8:55 pm

willyboy wrote:Did anyone come to a conclusion with this debate?

I thought it was about whether retiring to Thailand would become more user friendly? was there a conclusion?

I see Mexico got discussed, along with Eastern Europe, Phillipines, Malaysia, Equador and Cambodia!

I still think ''debate'' is the wrong label.We only have our views and opinions to share from our experience and that of others hearsay.Therefore the conclusions are when nobody posts on the topic anymore,leaving you to reach the conclusion

Our expert in the debating arena has taken a leave of absence,but the consenus is that it will be only temporary and he will be back soon.He waiting for a more subservient attitude amongst his subjects

Post by **BKKSTAN** » September 12, 2006, 8:56 pm

BKKSTAN wrote:
willyboy wrote:Did anyone come to a conclusion with this debate?

I thought it was about whether retiring to Thailand would become more user friendly? was there a conclusion?

I see Mexico got discussed, along with Eastern Europe, Phillipines, Malaysia, Equador and Cambodia!
I still think ''debate'' is the wrong label.We only have our views and opinions to share from our experience and that of others hearsay.Therefore the conclusions are when nobody posts on the topic anymore,leaving you to reach the conclusion
Our expert in the debating arena has taken a leave of absence,but the consenus is that it will be only temporary and he will be back soon.He's waiting for a more subservient attitude amongst his subjects

Post by **Bump** » September 12, 2006, 8:58 pm

Well I think a better lable for this one would have been discussion, see I don't even know how to get a debate going much less participate in one

Post by **BKKSTAN** » September 12, 2006, 9:22 pm

ray23 wrote:Well I think a better lable for this one would have been discussion, see I don't even know how to get a debate going much less participate in one

Now think about Ray,did you really want a ''debate''?

Post by **Bump** » September 12, 2006, 9:48 pm

No not me, I try to stay away from that. so this was as close a I can get. But Brian did bring up something that would be interesting to know about the cost of living and the living conditions in Eastern Europe I don't think I could handle the winters, but it looks like there might be some beautiful areas there.

Anyone spend any time there?

Post by **willyboy** » September 13, 2006, 12:05 am

Ray23 wrote

Rules of the debate

All statements are to be supported using logic

Any for or aginst statements must be supported, by past history or future events that are precieved by current events.

No name calling

No baiting the other person to anger through inappropriate statements.

Keep it on on a intellectual level:

Feel free to argue against any others logic using logic.

So you great debateres out there have at it.

For me I will be very interested in seeing your views on this subject. I won't participate, never go to knife fight without a gun,

I won't participate,

Well here's a few statistics for you guys-

There's been 27 replies AFTER Ray23's original post. Of those:

Ray23 - made 12 posts
BKKSTAN - made 7
banpaeng - made 5

Our expert in the debating arena has taken a leave of absence,but the consenus is that it will be only temporary and he will be back soon

Well, I do hope so, because to me your debate, discussion whatever label you want to give it, was something of a ramble in the country and you seemed to have gotten lost a few times on the way.

In fact judging by the last post about living conditions in Eastern Europe, you're still not back yet!!

A reminder

Topic - Will Thialand law become more user friendly for retirees.

I saw no real evidence of you staying on the topic, no logical or structured arguments presented, - just hearsay, AND NO conclusions drawn.

Come on now, get it together guys!!!

Anyways good luck in Eastern Europe, or is it Mexico?

Post by **banpaeng** » September 13, 2006, 6:04 am

To get us on track let compare living and retireing in Estonia Vs. Thailand.

AAny takers

Post by **BKKSTAN** » September 13, 2006, 6:23 am

Willyboy,we are waiting for you to add your info to the topic

valentine · Post by **valentine** » September 13, 2006, 6:54 am

BKKSTAN wrote:
willyboy wrote:Did anyone come to a conclusion with this debate?

:
Our expert in the debating arena has taken a leave of absence,but the consenus is that it will be only temporary and he will be back soon.He waiting for a more subservient attitude amongst his subjects

I certainly won't return whilst childish, trivial remarks like this are being made, but I'm watching

Post by **BKKSTAN** » September 13, 2006, 7:40 am

valentine wrote:
BKKSTAN wrote:
willyboy wrote:Did anyone come to a conclusion with this debate?

:
Our expert in the debating arena has taken a leave of absence,but the consenus is that it will be only temporary and he will be back soon.He waiting for a more subservient attitude amongst his subjects
I certainly won't return whilst childish, trivial remarks like this are being made, but I'm watching

Spoken like a individual,we are just contemptable peasants that are corrupting your fantasy kingdom.My lord,please crusade on through the Israelites,we wouldn't want your ''hidden'' eyes to sting and cause more suffering in the smog of our delight!We speak a language that offends your important personage and refuse to bow down to kiss your ring.

Why don't you treat us as you would Thais(Assuming you don't delight in provking them) instead of bugs for your childish delight.Nobody is interested in challenging your education or excellent understanding of the Kings English,but throwing us into the arena of your contempt does not make you an Emperor to be respected!Yee only breed an uprising,that leaves you to lanquish in the PM's of support to sooth your inflated ego

You want respect ,you give respect

You have personally offended me with your snideness and admitted desire to anger!You provoked the anger,you may leave the gauntlet where you have thrown it,or pick it up with apology and changed behavior!''Up to You""!

Post by **lee** » September 13, 2006, 9:26 am

Ok guys, can we please calm down a little and not get personal. This forum is supposed to be a friendly place for people to share opinions, seek advice and learn about the area. I have been lenient up until this point due to the fact that all those involved seemed to be enjoying themselves, but I really feel it has gone over the top now.
Can we please respect all users and follow the forum rules as listed below:

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laphanphon · Post by **laphanphon** » September 13, 2006, 10:07 am

the sun is starting to shine and it's safe to go in the water again.

thank you