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[quote=wazza post When Andy Murray wins blah blah , when he looses he is a Scott..... lol
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That is true of the attitude of some the English supporters, Wazza; as is true, but the other way around, of the Scottish supporters !!
However, unlike Kanta and parents, Murray personally has not first chosen a nationality of a country providing refuge; enjoyed the benefits of and, - proudly? 
- represented that country, then elected to change nationality.
Mind you the days when , generally speaking, people were fiercely proud of their birth country, has been on the decline for several decades, and one has only to look at the personal histories of members of certain various Olympic Teams, as a prime example of the truth of my assertion. So perhaps Kanta should not be criticized for following what has become a normal trend.
While admitting to the possibility of personal prejudice, I think ethnic Aussies, Kiwis & South Africans, in the main, still retain that 'old fashioned' passion for, and pride in, representing their homeland, and are among those least likely to change their allegiance. (PLEASE Statto and/or Zid, refrain from any smart***e remarks regarding ex England Captain Tony Gregg who was kind enough to agree to help England out in it's time of cricketing crisis! :-"
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Back to Tennis, and tonight's semis:
Federer , in his most difficult match of this tournament, to beat Berdych. Cilic to beat Querry; probably in three sets.
Coincidentally, I was going to include a request to Zid, as UM's official provider of titillating photos, to find and post 'appropriate' photos of what Venue will now be forced to face tomorrow. Should have known he would be ahead of me. Perhaps, as an act of kindness to us Aussies, he could do some research on the members of our womens cricket team, among whom there are two or three attractive members, and provide photos? [-o<
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That is true of the attitude of some the English supporters, Wazza; as is true, but the other way around, of the Scottish supporters !!
However, unlike Kanta and parents, Murray personally has not first chosen a nationality of a country providing refuge; enjoyed the benefits of and, - proudly? - represented that country, then elected to change nationality.Mind you the days when , generally speaking, people were fiercely proud of their birth country, has been on the decline for several decades, and one has only to look at the personal histories of members of certain various Olympic Teams, as a prime example of the truth of my assertion. So perhaps Kanta should not be criticized for following what has become a normal trend.
While admitting to the possibility of personal prejudice, I think ethnic Aussies, Kiwis & South Africans, in the main, still retain that 'old fashioned' passion for, and pride in, representing their homeland, and are among those least likely to change their allegiance. (PLEASE Statto and/or Zid, refrain from any smart***e remarks regarding ex England Captain Tony Gregg who was kind enough to agree to help England out in it's time of cricketing crisis! :-"
).Back to Tennis, and tonight's semis:
Federer , in his most difficult match of this tournament, to beat Berdych. Cilic to beat Querry; probably in three sets.
Coincidentally, I was going to include a request to Zid, as UM's official provider of titillating photos, to find and post 'appropriate' photos of what Venue will now be forced to face tomorrow. Should have known he would be ahead of me. Perhaps, as an act of kindness to us Aussies, he could do some research on the members of our womens cricket team, among whom there are two or three attractive members, and provide photos? [-o<
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Some members may be confused by mat80's spelling........ 
so please note the following....
Kanta = Konta
Gregg = Greig
Venue = Venus
and for football followers this coming season......Maurinho = Mourinho
Anyway,as to pictures.....
Heres another one of Garbine Muguruza
As for attractive Australian women cricketers......well,its easier to find sexy pictures of Theresa May ! 
Heres one who is not bad......Ellysse Perry
Finding attractive Australian women,generally,is a thankless task but this young lady was voted Australias most attractive female.....Delta Goodrem.....but shes rubbish at cricket,I believe !
This thread going "slightly off topic" so c'mon Roger and Garbine !!
so please note the following....Kanta = Konta
Gregg = Greig
Venue
= Venusand for football followers this coming season......Maurinho = Mourinho
Anyway,as to pictures.....
Heres another one of Garbine Muguruza
Heres one who is not bad......Ellysse Perry
Just when I thought our chance had passed,you go and save the best for last.
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[quote=Zidane post Some members may be confused by mat80's spelling........ so please note the following....for
football followers this coming season ......Maurinho = Mourinho The Mouth WHO? 
:-"
This thread going "slightly off topic" so c'mon Roger and Garbine !!
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so please note the following....for football followers this coming season ......Maurinho = Mourinho The Mouth
WHO? :-" This thread going "slightly off topic" so c'mon Roger and Garbine !!
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Yesterday at Wimbledon was filming for the worst Lethal Weapon remake ever
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My parents always used to sit and listen to Cliff Richard when I was younger.stattointhailand wrote: ↑July 14, 2017, 6:32 pmLooks like having the **** Police after him is taking it's toll ...... looking a "shadow" of his former self
They should really have come in my room & stopped him..........
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Looks like having the **** Police after him is taking it's toll ...... looking a "shadow" of his former self
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Not at all surprised by Nigglby but feel your post really unworthy of you Statts.
I realize this is slightly off topic, but since it has been raised by you both, I respectfully request both, or one of you, provide details of the specific criminal charges the POLICE have actually laid against Cliff Richard, and which remain current.
The FACTS, as I understand them, are that 'criminals' thought they saw an opportunity of making easy money by making false accusations against Sir Richard. The handling of the case by the police was the subject of considerable public criticism, which was proved justified when, after two years of putting Richard through hell, his accusers confessed, and he was totally cleared of all charges. His accusers have been charged by the Police. Worthy of note is that no other accusers 'climbed on the bandwagon', as has been the case in other well publicized cases. He has provided over half a century of pleasurable musical entertainment to, and remains admired by, millions of fans all over the world. I think he has the right to be left in peace ; don't you?.
Looks like having the **** Police after him is taking it's toll ...... looking a "shadow" of his former self
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Not at all surprised by Nigglby but feel your post really unworthy of you Statts.I realize this is slightly off topic, but since it has been raised by you both, I respectfully request both, or one of you, provide details of the specific criminal charges the POLICE have actually laid against Cliff Richard, and which remain current.
The FACTS, as I understand them, are that 'criminals' thought they saw an opportunity of making easy money by making false accusations against Sir Richard. The handling of the case by the police was the subject of considerable public criticism, which was proved justified when, after two years of putting Richard through hell, his accusers confessed, and he was totally cleared of all charges. His accusers have been charged by the Police. Worthy of note is that no other accusers 'climbed on the bandwagon', as has been the case in other well publicized cases. He has provided over half a century of pleasurable musical entertainment to, and remains admired by, millions of fans all over the world. I think he has the right to be left in peace ; don't you?.
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[quote=mathusalah80 Back to Tennis, and tonight's semis:
Federer , in his most difficult match of this tournament, to beat Berdych. Cilic to beat Querry; probably in three sets.
I was correct in my forecast of the eventual winners, but neither match went at all the way I had envisaged. As has been the case in the past with others, the 'magic' of the Centre Court inspired Querry to raise his game once again to that level, now some seasons past, when much was expected of him. Although his superior all round game eventually enabled Cilic to overcome Querry's stout hearted resistance, it proved to be a much more even contest than had been anticipated , and the perfect curtain raiser for the match to follow.
Federer v Berdych proved to be a magnificent match; worthy of a Wimbledon Final. Throughout, the outcome of each service game, and each set was on a knife edge, and some of the rallies were breathtaking in the quality of the stroke play and the returns of both players. Berdych made opportunities in both the first, and again in the second, set to seize control of the match but, as he has done so many time that it is almost expected of him, Federer played immaculate tie breaks, to win those two sets effortlessly. In the third Federer seemed to be on the defensive throughout, and in danger of losing the third set, and his momentum, particularly when Berdych broke his service, and in a position to serve for the set. However, in true Federer style, the great man forthwith broke the Berdych serve, ( and probably his heart), and the match.
The good news for Berdych, based on this wonderful performance is that there is undoubtedly a Gran Slam Title waiting for his in the not too distance future.
Federer , in his most difficult match of this tournament, to beat Berdych. Cilic to beat Querry; probably in three sets.
I was correct in my forecast of the eventual winners, but neither match went at all the way I had envisaged. As has been the case in the past with others, the 'magic' of the Centre Court inspired Querry to raise his game once again to that level, now some seasons past, when much was expected of him. Although his superior all round game eventually enabled Cilic to overcome Querry's stout hearted resistance, it proved to be a much more even contest than had been anticipated , and the perfect curtain raiser for the match to follow.
Federer v Berdych proved to be a magnificent match; worthy of a Wimbledon Final. Throughout, the outcome of each service game, and each set was on a knife edge, and some of the rallies were breathtaking in the quality of the stroke play and the returns of both players. Berdych made opportunities in both the first, and again in the second, set to seize control of the match but, as he has done so many time that it is almost expected of him, Federer played immaculate tie breaks, to win those two sets effortlessly. In the third Federer seemed to be on the defensive throughout, and in danger of losing the third set, and his momentum, particularly when Berdych broke his service, and in a position to serve for the set. However, in true Federer style, the great man forthwith broke the Berdych serve, ( and probably his heart), and the match.
The good news for Berdych, based on this wonderful performance is that there is undoubtedly a Gran Slam Title waiting for his in the not too distance future.
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Interesting, don't think I've ever had the pleasure of making your acquaintance mathusalah80. Never mind eh
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The 23-year-old Spaniard, who had failed to reach a final in the 23 tournaments since she won the French Open last year, defeated five-time champion Williams 7-5 6-0.
Muguruza was beaten by the American's sister Serena in the 2015 final.
"I didn't want to lose this time because I know the difference. I'm so happy," she said.
"I'm happy that once again I see myself winning a Grand Slam, something that is so hard to do.
"It means a lot of confidence."
Just when I thought our chance had passed,you go and save the best for last.
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mathusalah80 wrote: ↑July 15, 2017, 5:36 pm[quote=mathusalah80 Back to Tennis, and tonight's semis:
Federer , in his most difficult match of this tournament, to beat Berdych. Cilic to beat Querry; probably in three sets.
And so it has proved to be Federer v Cilic, to contest the final.
Now everyone who is a tennis fan, and probably quite a few who are not, are asking the question:
"Can Federer write another chapter, in an already illustrious career, by adding an incredible record eighth Wimbledon Title, to his collection of the pinnacles he has reached in Tennis?"
Personally I found it amazing that, pre-tournament, the 'Experts" and the bookmakers selected 35 year old (,six weeks off becoming 36!), year old Federer the favourite. Noteworthy,that the Wimbledon Committee was somewhat more pragmatic in it's seedlings.
Now, moving past what has been an eventful fortnight in the Men's event, and on to tonight final episode. Almost without exception Federer is being touted as the favourite to win. While in this specific, I can understand the reasoning, I think that it is very possible, dare I say likely, that Cilic is going to force Federer to play the match of his life to prevent Cilic causing another major upset, as he did in 2014, when he totally embarrassed Federer in beating him in three sets. Add to ,their other famous confrontation in 2016, when Cilic comfortably got to two sets up and appeared to be comfortably on the way to a repeat of his 2014 performance, only for Federer to turn on the magic, as only he can, and win in five sets; saving three match points en route. Also to be taken into account is that Cilic is among the top, and one of the most experienced, players on the circuit, and won the US Open in 2014. So, a player not to be taken lightly, as Federer will be well aware.
To cause an upset, I think it will be essential that Cilic is successful in 'reading' the Federer serves consistently; concentrating hitting consistently and powerfully to Federer's' forehand, and try limit opportunities for Federer to utilize his recently acquired skills of coming up to the net. A tall order indeed, but fulfilling those sort of demands is what Grand Slam Champions are made of. I think the result is too close to call; so good luck to both players.
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Roger Federer became the first man to win Wimbledon eight times and extended his record to 19 Grand Slam titles with victory over Croatia's Marin Cilic.
The Swiss third seed won 6-3 6-1 6-4 as seventh seed Cilic struggled with a blister on his left foot and broke down in tears during the second set.
Federer, 35, finished the contest in one hour and 41 minutes to claim his first Wimbledon title since 2012.
He becomes the oldest man in the Open Era to win at the All England Club.
"It is cruel sometimes," Federer said of Cilic's physical difficulties.
"But Marin fought well and is a hero, so congratulations on a wonderful tournament."
Among his long list of achievements, Federer became the first man since Bjorn Borg in 1976 to win the Wimbledon title without dropping a set.
The tournament favourite from the outset, he was rarely troubled over the course of seven matches, and Cilic was not in the condition to provide a serious test.
"I never give up in a match. I gave it my best - it's all I can do," Cilic said afterwards.
Federer was playing in his 11th Wimbledon final and Cilic his first, and the gap in experience showed from the early stages.
Just when I thought our chance had passed,you go and save the best for last.
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[quote=mathusalah80 postTo cause an upset, I think it will be essential that Cilic is successful in 'reading' the Federer serves consistently; concentrating hitting consistently and powerfully to Federer's' forehand, and try limit opportunities for Federer to utilize his recently acquired skills of coming up to the net. A tall order indeed, but fulfilling those sort of demands is what Grand Slam Champions are made of. I think the result is too close to call; so good luck to both players.
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Remarkably, even by Federer's standards, this match was clearly over by the end of the first set; both from a tennis, and from an emotional, viewpoint. As to the former, Federer was 'on song' from the outset, with Cilic showing early embarrassment at his inability to cope with Federer's all round game, but most particularly the guile of Federer's services. Cannot quote the actual statistics, (so beloved by my friends Statts & Zidine! :-" ) but his success rate on both first & second serves never fell below 80%+ and, in the first set one or other stood at an incredible 100% :shock.
Cilic, by way of contrast, struggled from the outset to hold serve, normally his best weapon, and it was clear, even at that early stage that, while he lacked nothing in determination, the emotional pressure of the occasion was having a serious affect on his performance. Hardly surprising when taking into account it was his first appearance on Wimbledon's hallowed Centre Court, where he was being asked to beat the world's greatest player, playing on his 'home' ground, with some 15,000 vociferous supporters, interested only in a Federer victory.
Sadly, the pressures of the moment, and the frustration of trying to compete against a Federer, implacable in his determination not to be denied victory, finally took it's toll on Cilic at the end of the first set, who returned to his chair sobbing. His support team comforted him to the best of their abilities, during a 'time out', after which Cilic, as was to be expected, elected to continue. But it was clear his spirit had been broken, and the result a foregone conclusion.
A sad end to what had promised to be a highly competitive and intriguing match up, but, as Federer commented later: ".....It's a cruel sport"
Interesting, that despite it being less than 24 hours since Federer's victory, the question is already being bandied around the world of tennis "Will He, won't He; can He; can't He, win his 20th. Grand Slam, at the US Open in August? "
What do YOU think?
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Remarkably, even by Federer's standards, this match was clearly over by the end of the first set; both from a tennis, and from an emotional, viewpoint. As to the former, Federer was 'on song' from the outset, with Cilic showing early embarrassment at his inability to cope with Federer's all round game, but most particularly the guile of Federer's services. Cannot quote the actual statistics, (so beloved by my friends Statts & Zidine! :-" ) but his success rate on both first & second serves never fell below 80%+ and, in the first set one or other stood at an incredible 100% :shock.
Cilic, by way of contrast, struggled from the outset to hold serve, normally his best weapon, and it was clear, even at that early stage that, while he lacked nothing in determination, the emotional pressure of the occasion was having a serious affect on his performance. Hardly surprising when taking into account it was his first appearance on Wimbledon's hallowed Centre Court, where he was being asked to beat the world's greatest player, playing on his 'home' ground, with some 15,000 vociferous supporters, interested only in a Federer victory.
Sadly, the pressures of the moment, and the frustration of trying to compete against a Federer, implacable in his determination not to be denied victory, finally took it's toll on Cilic at the end of the first set, who returned to his chair sobbing. His support team comforted him to the best of their abilities, during a 'time out', after which Cilic, as was to be expected, elected to continue. But it was clear his spirit had been broken, and the result a foregone conclusion.
A sad end to what had promised to be a highly competitive and intriguing match up, but, as Federer commented later: ".....It's a cruel sport"
Interesting, that despite it being less than 24 hours since Federer's victory, the question is already being bandied around the world of tennis "Will He, won't He; can He; can't He, win his 20th. Grand Slam, at the US Open in August? "
What do YOU think?
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"What do YOU think?"
I think it died as a sport when they allowed non wooden rackets ...... haven't watched more than 10 mins at a time since.
Anything more than 2 or 3 "Aces" in a match confirms to me that it was NOT a match, it was a battle of who can hit the hardest. Tried to watch womens tennis for a couple of years after they ruined the mens game, then the likes of the William's came along and ruined that as well
I think it died as a sport when they allowed non wooden rackets ...... haven't watched more than 10 mins at a time since.
Anything more than 2 or 3 "Aces" in a match confirms to me that it was NOT a match, it was a battle of who can hit the hardest. Tried to watch womens tennis for a couple of years after they ruined the mens game, then the likes of the William's came along and ruined that as well
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I think Cilic is innocent
Oh, hang on, wrong chap, sorry
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At least we will no where to look if the pitch at Trent Bridge has "Cilic is innocent" oiled into it
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I absolutely agree with you Statts that, with that change, the game changed rapidly to become more a test of size & power than of skill. Occurs to me that, perhaps Federer's level of intelligence, plus his preference for the use of skill and guile over power, is the reason for his current, and may I say welcome, dominance in the game.stattointhailand wrote: ↑July 17, 2017, 3:28 pm"What do YOU think?"
I think it died as a sport when they allowed non wooden rackets ......
Nigglby wrote: "I think Cilic is innocent.........Oh hang on, wrong chap. Sorry."
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Oh that's a shame, I was aiming for another outburst of moral indignation.mathusalah80 wrote: ↑July 18, 2017, 10:10 amNigglby wrote: "I think Cilic is innocent.........Oh hang on, wrong chap. Sorry."
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[quote=Nigglyb post Oh that's a shame, I was aiming for another outburst of moral indignation.
Have a nice day Niggly.
Have a nice day Niggly.