Yet another school shooting in the US
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Oh dear, not the Hitler thing again..
To be clear, to say that Hitler removed arms from German citizens is a lie.
It is difficult to remove something that was already removed nearly 20 years earlier by the victorious countries of the 1st. World War.
The facts are clear. Under 2 Act of Government the Hitler regime actually increased the ability of German citizens to own arms.
Not to let facts get in the way of a good bit of rhetoric though...
p.s. if dictators find citizen owning firearms so threatening then why did both Saddam & Gaddafi actively encourage it, to the point of it being compulsory in Iraq ??
To be clear, to say that Hitler removed arms from German citizens is a lie.
It is difficult to remove something that was already removed nearly 20 years earlier by the victorious countries of the 1st. World War.
The facts are clear. Under 2 Act of Government the Hitler regime actually increased the ability of German citizens to own arms.
Not to let facts get in the way of a good bit of rhetoric though...
p.s. if dictators find citizen owning firearms so threatening then why did both Saddam & Gaddafi actively encourage it, to the point of it being compulsory in Iraq ??
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I never said that Hitler removed arms from German citizens.BobHelm wrote: ↑March 30, 2018, 9:53 amOh dear, not the Hitler thing again..
To be clear, to say that Hitler removed arms from German citizens is a lie.
It is difficult to remove something that was already removed nearly 20 years earlier by the victorious countries of the 1st. World War.
The facts are clear. Under 2 Act of Government the Hitler regime actually increased the ability of German citizens to own arms.
Not to let facts get in the way of a good bit of rhetoric though...
p.s. if dictators find citizen owning firearms so threatening then why did both Saddam & Gaddafi actively encourage it, to the point of it being compulsory in Iraq ??
You did your research, Bob. Very good.And by the way, the civilizations that did themselves in were the ones that allowed their leaders to deprive them of their firearms. Do your own research regarding those instances. You can start with Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot and Stalin.
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I have never made this claim.
What I HAVE said is that American citizens want to retain their right to bear arms to prevent tyranny from their government.
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Awesome backpedaling there Lonely Star.
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" It was Vietnam that was steamrolled by communism and Iraq that was steamrolled by a tyrant"
you got some twisted view of the world, the Vietnamese wanted to be communists, it was the tyrannical American government that invaded Vietnam to stop them, and luckily failed . but not until they caused the deaths of an estimated 3,300,000 people
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as for saddam , who called him a tyrant...oh yeh the American government.
"US intelligence helped Saddam's Ba`ath Party seize power for the first time in 1963. Evidence suggests that Saddam was on the CIA payroll as early as 1959, when he participated in a failed assassination attempt against Iraqi strongman Abd al-Karim Qassem. In the 1980s, the US and Britain backed Saddam in the war against Iran, giving Iraq arms, money, satellite intelligence, and even chemical & bio-weapon precursors. As many as 90 US military advisors supported Iraqi forces and helped pick targets for Iraqi air and missile attacks."
yeh right blaming saddam
you got some twisted view of the world, the Vietnamese wanted to be communists, it was the tyrannical American government that invaded Vietnam to stop them, and luckily failed . but not until they caused the deaths of an estimated 3,300,000 people
.
as for saddam , who called him a tyrant...oh yeh the American government.
"US intelligence helped Saddam's Ba`ath Party seize power for the first time in 1963. Evidence suggests that Saddam was on the CIA payroll as early as 1959, when he participated in a failed assassination attempt against Iraqi strongman Abd al-Karim Qassem. In the 1980s, the US and Britain backed Saddam in the war against Iran, giving Iraq arms, money, satellite intelligence, and even chemical & bio-weapon precursors. As many as 90 US military advisors supported Iraqi forces and helped pick targets for Iraqi air and missile attacks."
yeh right blaming saddam
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The White house officials are at it again poking there nose into another country's business and causing trouble. and stirring up more trouble with Putin over the Poison Attack in England. Its our problem which we can sort out without the troublesome yanks poking there nose in to something that is not there business.
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You might want to start with third-grade grammar before lecturing others on anything.not there business
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Don't think us yanks did the expelling without first coordinating with your Brits government as well as with the other 19 counties that expelled russians diplomatsvlad wrote: ↑March 31, 2018, 1:24 amThe White house officials are at it again poking there nose into another country's business and causing trouble. and stirring up more trouble with Putin over the Poison Attack in England. Its our problem which we can sort out without the troublesome yanks poking there nose in to something that is not there business.
Re: Yet another school shooting in the US
An excellent post.papafarang wrote: ↑March 30, 2018, 6:05 pm" It was Vietnam that was steamrolled by communism and Iraq that was steamrolled by a tyrant"
you got some twisted view of the world, the Vietnamese wanted to be communists, it was the tyrannical American government that invaded Vietnam to stop them, and luckily failed . but not until they caused the deaths of an estimated 3,300,000 people
.
as for saddam , who called him a tyrant...oh yeh the American government.
"US intelligence helped Saddam's Ba`ath Party seize power for the first time in 1963. Evidence suggests that Saddam was on the CIA payroll as early as 1959, when he participated in a failed assassination attempt against Iraqi strongman Abd al-Karim Qassem. In the 1980s, the US and Britain backed Saddam in the war against Iran, giving Iraq arms, money, satellite intelligence, and even chemical & bio-weapon precursors. As many as 90 US military advisors supported Iraqi forces and helped pick targets for Iraqi air and missile attacks."
yeh right blaming saddam
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I can always count on the Gaggle of kommandos to make my point about their blind hate for America. Just scroll through the thread and read for yourself. They attack everything they can find in the history of the country in every thread that has anything remotely to do with America -- even though, as in this thread, it has nothing to do with school shootings.
Even the wild-eyed, hair-on-fire hater of them all is here trying to blame the US for meddling in the UK when they were assisting and backing up the UK in their recent spy attack. Two countries working together (and several others in the world community) against a common enemy -- and that's bad because one of them is the US. Again, in a thread about a school shooting. The same guy who said the thread was dead and that he wasn't interested. Well, he's back for the 3rd or 4th time after announcing the thread's demise and speaking for everyone as being not interested. And of course, it's with some comment totally unrelated to the school shooting -- but certainly fits his hate-America narrative. He is always welcome to return and continue to prove me correct, but he keeps telling us he's leaving.
And then all of the Vietnam and Iraq stuff -- in a thread about a school shooting.
And why do the the haters do this? Besides their hate for America and their glee in trolling any thread about America? Because they can't win an argument in favor of gun control in the US. All of their opinions, and hate-filled rants, supplemented with stuff pulled out of the air from somewhere, don't even support their claims. In many cases, their data-mining efforts have no positive effect on their argument.
Americans who live and vote in the US and want more gun control -- even confiscation -- can't even win the gun control argument. The fact that the Amendment has not been repealed is proof that the argument is far from being won and that Americans want their guns and their RIGHT preserved. (See link below for more evidence of this.)
One of the kommandos is so filled with hate for America and so intent upon trolling in this thread that he would dare to stand on the mass graves of Iraqis and Vietnamese and give Saddam and the Vietcong a pass for all of their mass killings and genocidal efforts. I'm sure that all of those Iraqis and Vietnamese fleeing their two countries in droves -- with many dying trying to leave -- was just the world's imagination. And where did most of them attempt to flee? AMERICA. He is proving yet again that he is way outside of his sphere of knowledge, and he lacks the integrity to be believable about anything outside of what he is paid to do. He is certainly entitled to his opinion, but it means increasingly less as this thread continues.
That same kommando can't even be honest about the number of Vietnamese civilians who died. Next, he will be giving Hitler and Stalin a pass and blaming America for doing things that created the Soviet Union and starting World War II.
Yeah, America interferred in the Vietnam Civil War vs Communism, and they deposed the dictator and tyrant Saddam Hussein. So start another hate-America thread and get to your hating.
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Now back to the school shooting issue.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/28874/su ... es-barrett
Survey Blows Up Media Narrative About 'March For Our Lives' Participants
The demographics of the "March For Our Lives" was NOT what the media would have you believe.
Less than half were there to protest guns, less than a third were new protesters, 89% voted for Hillary.
Who conducted that poll? The Washington Post.
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And now for a little from that Sewer of Hypocrisy from which LIBs draw repeatedly and often.
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/dear- ... e-the-nra/
So actually, the bullies from Parkland School System are more culpable than the NRA or any of its members -- who had nothing to do with the shooting.
Which brings me back to one of my previous statements. It's immoral to remove the RIGHT to bear arms from over 300 million citizens -- the vast majority of whom are legal and law-abiding gun owners -- for the loon and hateful actions of 97 (someone else's date from somewhere) crazed shooters.
Even the wild-eyed, hair-on-fire hater of them all is here trying to blame the US for meddling in the UK when they were assisting and backing up the UK in their recent spy attack. Two countries working together (and several others in the world community) against a common enemy -- and that's bad because one of them is the US. Again, in a thread about a school shooting. The same guy who said the thread was dead and that he wasn't interested. Well, he's back for the 3rd or 4th time after announcing the thread's demise and speaking for everyone as being not interested. And of course, it's with some comment totally unrelated to the school shooting -- but certainly fits his hate-America narrative. He is always welcome to return and continue to prove me correct, but he keeps telling us he's leaving.
And then all of the Vietnam and Iraq stuff -- in a thread about a school shooting.
And why do the the haters do this? Besides their hate for America and their glee in trolling any thread about America? Because they can't win an argument in favor of gun control in the US. All of their opinions, and hate-filled rants, supplemented with stuff pulled out of the air from somewhere, don't even support their claims. In many cases, their data-mining efforts have no positive effect on their argument.
Americans who live and vote in the US and want more gun control -- even confiscation -- can't even win the gun control argument. The fact that the Amendment has not been repealed is proof that the argument is far from being won and that Americans want their guns and their RIGHT preserved. (See link below for more evidence of this.)
One of the kommandos is so filled with hate for America and so intent upon trolling in this thread that he would dare to stand on the mass graves of Iraqis and Vietnamese and give Saddam and the Vietcong a pass for all of their mass killings and genocidal efforts. I'm sure that all of those Iraqis and Vietnamese fleeing their two countries in droves -- with many dying trying to leave -- was just the world's imagination. And where did most of them attempt to flee? AMERICA. He is proving yet again that he is way outside of his sphere of knowledge, and he lacks the integrity to be believable about anything outside of what he is paid to do. He is certainly entitled to his opinion, but it means increasingly less as this thread continues.
That same kommando can't even be honest about the number of Vietnamese civilians who died. Next, he will be giving Hitler and Stalin a pass and blaming America for doing things that created the Soviet Union and starting World War II.
Yeah, America interferred in the Vietnam Civil War vs Communism, and they deposed the dictator and tyrant Saddam Hussein. So start another hate-America thread and get to your hating.
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Now back to the school shooting issue.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/28874/su ... es-barrett
Survey Blows Up Media Narrative About 'March For Our Lives' Participants
The demographics of the "March For Our Lives" was NOT what the media would have you believe.
Less than half were there to protest guns, less than a third were new protesters, 89% voted for Hillary.
Who conducted that poll? The Washington Post.
This march was not representative of Americans. It was representative of old LIBs who hate Trump. Just another reason why the country as a whole reject this stuff.For the last week, the media has presented a consistent narrative about the "March For Our Lives" rally in D.C., which we've been told is one of the most significant demonstrations of its kind in American history: it was a student-led, mostly young people-attended rally for a unified cause: gun control. But an extensive survey of the marchers highlighted by The Washington Post found that, in fact, "it wasn't mostly young people" and less than half were actually there to protest guns. As for the notion that the marchers were a cross-section of the American public, almost all of them voted for Hillary Clinton.
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And now for a little from that Sewer of Hypocrisy from which LIBs draw repeatedly and often.
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/dear- ... e-the-nra/
And it gets better.If you’ve admitted, as Emma has, that you ostracized the shooter as early as middle school, you’ve admitted a person, not the tool used, is responsible for the shooting. Specifically a person you made to feel excluded (more on this later).
If a person is responsible for his actions, as the shooter is, then a group of opportunistic anti-gun shills actively campaigning against a group which had no involvement in the shooting (the NRA), is irresponsible at best, malicious at worse. Some might say you’re engaging in bullying tactics.
Seems to me if anyone played a role in the shooter’s motive, if anyone contributed to the shooter’s actions, neither Marco Rubio or the NRA is to blame.
Am I blaming you for what the shooter did? No. Even if someone is bullied into a spiraling depression that may lead to suicide, a person’s actions are ultimately their own. See, unlike you, I believe people are responsible for themselves.
You are responsible for your actions. The shooter is responsible for his.
What I do find impressive is the gall you have to, while knowing you may have tormented what would one day become a mass school shooter, you’re actively blaming the National Rifle Association. A group made up of legal American gun owners who didn’t know the shooter. Who didn’t actively bully or ostracize a young man as early as 12 or 13-years-old.
According to U.S. Secret Service statistics, 2/3 of the 37 school shootings reviewed had bullying as a factor. 160,000 students stay home from school everyday due to bullying. 20% of high school students say they've seriously considered suicide within the last 12 month's due to bullying. Kids who are bullied are more than twice as likely to consider suicide.It’s easier to blame THE GUN, or any group which supports the right to keep and bear guns, than to examine an entire system of government failures, or the messy subject of human culpability. Including how the students who knew and influenced the eventual shooter may have played a role in his eventual break.
It’s called a “motive.” And if we were to talk with the Parkland Shooter, I’d have to guess the motive behind his shooting was not “The NRA didn’t let me sit with them.” If I had to guess the motive behind his shooting, it wasn’t that students rallied in a group to march against bullying, to march for kindness. No, it’s that he hated you, the students. The same students who made him feel less. For years.
You haven’t changed. You’re actively trying to bully guns out of the hands of law-abiding gun-owners.
So actually, the bullies from Parkland School System are more culpable than the NRA or any of its members -- who had nothing to do with the shooting.
Which brings me back to one of my previous statements. It's immoral to remove the RIGHT to bear arms from over 300 million citizens -- the vast majority of whom are legal and law-abiding gun owners -- for the loon and hateful actions of 97 (someone else's date from somewhere) crazed shooters.
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There is a simple reason we dont bother mentioning gun control on this thread and its people like you LS that keeps banging on about it were not interested, im only interested in the mire you and your country will drag us into like you always do. yes we may have asked for help from other country's but America is pushing for more Sanctions and looking to incite Putin further, no other country is coming out with the same rhetoric.
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Sad but so True. My Humble opinion Gun Control is not the Answer, just take a good look at places that have strict guns control laws, i.e., start with our Host Country. Nuff said.
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Not a big fan of Piers Morgan but quite like this interview with an NRA pro gun advocate
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yup. plenty of other countries around the globe that allow people to bear firearms, so why, or what is it, that causes most of these incidents to happen in the USA
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You only have to take a look at three village idiots on Udon Map from the US, Lonestar, Felix and Giggles, there's your answer...
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You're a good example of why the Commonwealth doesn't trust its subjects with anything sharper than a pair of scissors, fatmouth. Idiot extraordinaire.
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You have got the nationality wrong Giggle always remember engage your brain before opening your big flap trap.