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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by jackspratt » December 17, 2023, 8:59 pm

That is a silly question, because left and right wing are not dichotomies.

I would suggest that levels of intolerance are not much different at both extremes. Perhaps the main distinction I would make is that plenty of centrist conservatives seem to have been captured by the blight that is Trumpism.



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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » December 18, 2023, 6:13 am

jackspratt wrote:
December 17, 2023, 8:59 pm
That is a silly question, because left and right wing are not dichotomies.

I would suggest that levels of intolerance are not much different at both extremes. Perhaps the main distinction I would make is that plenty of centrist conservatives seem to have been captured by the blight that is Trumpism.
And that is a huge and dangerous problem.
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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by tamada » December 18, 2023, 6:18 am

Laan Yaa Mo wrote:
December 18, 2023, 6:13 am
jackspratt wrote:
December 17, 2023, 8:59 pm
That is a silly question, because left and right wing are not dichotomies.

I would suggest that levels of intolerance are not much different at both extremes. Perhaps the main distinction I would make is that plenty of centrist conservatives seem to have been captured by the blight that is Trumpism.
And that is a huge and dangerous problem.
Broadly agree, but applying the scientific maxim that life cannot exist in a vacuum, how does one categorize the influences that blight the left? Who is getting between the ears of your average "centrist liberal"? What handy label or pigeonhole can we use here?
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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by Udon Map » December 18, 2023, 7:59 am

jackspratt wrote:
December 17, 2023, 8:59 pm
I would suggest that levels of intolerance are not much different at both extremes.
Good point, I totally agree.
tamada wrote:
December 18, 2023, 6:18 am
Who is getting between the ears of your average "centrist liberal"?
Is the centrist liberal that different from the centrist conservative?

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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by jackspratt » December 18, 2023, 8:16 am

I guess when we see some evidence that centrist liberals are being captured by a malign influence the equivalent of Trumpism, a label can be applied.

Until then ......

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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by Udon Map » December 18, 2023, 10:18 am

jackspratt wrote:
December 18, 2023, 8:16 am
I guess when we see some evidence that centrist liberals are being captured by a malign influence the equivalent of Trumpism, a label can be applied.

Until then ......
Oh, when you specified centrist, I thought that you were talking about conservatives who didn't support Trump.

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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by tamada » December 18, 2023, 10:42 am

jackspratt wrote:
December 18, 2023, 8:16 am
I guess when we see some evidence that centrist liberals are being captured by a malign influence the equivalent of Trumpism, a label can be applied.

Until then ......
So despite sharing the attributes of right wing nut jobs, the loony left still don't have a totem? A leading light? A Messiah?

Strange.
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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by jackspratt » December 18, 2023, 11:45 am

tamada wrote:
December 18, 2023, 10:42 am

So despite sharing the attributes of right wing nut jobs, the loony left still don't have a totem? A leading light? A Messiah?
Apparently not.

For which we should be thankful. [-o<

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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by tamada » December 18, 2023, 12:38 pm

jackspratt wrote:
December 18, 2023, 11:45 am
tamada wrote:
December 18, 2023, 10:42 am

So despite sharing the attributes of right wing nut jobs, the loony left still don't have a totem? A leading light? A Messiah?
Apparently not.

For which we should be thankful. [-o<
Thankful? Or more scared of a headless, mindless, amorphous entity.

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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » December 18, 2023, 6:45 pm

Bruce Purdy of Queen's University, Kingston, weighs in on the debate and argues that it is the duty of police, not the university, to arrest anyone guilty of breaking speech laws including woke Jew haters.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/bruce- ... oke-agenda
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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by Udon Map » December 18, 2023, 7:09 pm

Laan Yaa Mo wrote:
December 18, 2023, 6:45 pm
Bruce Purdy of Queen's University, Kingston, weighs in on the debate and argues that it is the duty of police, not the university, to arrest anyone guilty of breaking speech laws including woke Jew haters.
Interesting contrast. In the U.S., violating free speech rights is a civil, not criminal offense. However, "hate speech" (whatever that is) can be evidence/an element of, and provide proof of, a "hate crime."

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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by jackspratt » December 18, 2023, 7:43 pm

Why is the US Congress - specifically the GOP led Reps - getting involved in this question at all?

Other than to raise the ante in their constant pursuit of cultural warfare that is.

UM - hate speech is criminalised in many western democracies, including Australia. And appropriately so in my view.

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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by tamada » December 19, 2023, 9:38 am

Hate speech, a legal obfuscation that's as clearly defined as woke. Almost.
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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by Udon Map » December 19, 2023, 7:25 pm

jackspratt wrote:
December 18, 2023, 7:43 pm
UM - hate speech is criminalised in many western democracies, including Australia. And appropriately so in my view.
Yes, but how do you define it? Don't I have a right to hate someone? And don't I have a right to tell him/her?

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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by jackspratt » December 19, 2023, 7:43 pm

Udon Map wrote:
December 19, 2023, 7:25 pm
jackspratt wrote:
December 18, 2023, 7:43 pm
UM - hate speech is criminalised in many western democracies, including Australia. And appropriately so in my view.
Yes, but how do you define it? Don't I have a right to hate someone? And don't I have a right to tell him/her?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_spee ... _Australia

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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by tamada » December 20, 2023, 7:03 am

jackspratt wrote:
December 19, 2023, 7:43 pm
Udon Map wrote:
December 19, 2023, 7:25 pm
jackspratt wrote:
December 18, 2023, 7:43 pm
UM - hate speech is criminalised in many western democracies, including Australia. And appropriately so in my view.
Yes, but how do you define it? Don't I have a right to hate someone? And don't I have a right to tell him/her?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_spee ... _Australia
Some sort of Antipodean stew there, no? Some define race only while others throw a sop to this new-fangled 'diversity' thingmie. That wiki mish mash doesn't even make for a decent deflection.
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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by glalt » December 23, 2023, 9:49 pm

As far as the universities, I think their far left liberal teachers are guilty of labomising impressionable students.

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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by tamada » December 24, 2023, 6:43 am

glalt wrote:
December 23, 2023, 9:49 pm
As far as the universities, I think their far left liberal teachers are guilty of labomising impressionable students.
Are university students more impressionable these days? Do the majority of the world's youth attend university?
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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by glalt » December 24, 2023, 9:16 am

tamada wrote:
December 24, 2023, 6:43 am
glalt wrote:
December 23, 2023, 9:49 pm
As far as the universities, I think their far left liberal teachers are guilty of labomising impressionable students.
Are university students more impressionable these days? Do the majority of the world's youth attend university?
Students are normally impressionable and most look up to their highly educated teachers.It is the fault of universities that hire those radical teachers, not the students. Universities should concentrate on education and NOT radical politics.

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Re: Backlash over Congress Anti-Semitism Testimony

Post by Whistler » December 24, 2023, 10:43 am

glalt wrote:
December 24, 2023, 9:16 am
tamada wrote:
December 24, 2023, 6:43 am
glalt wrote:
December 23, 2023, 9:49 pm
As far as the universities, I think their far left liberal teachers are guilty of labomising impressionable students.
Are university students more impressionable these days? Do the majority of the world's youth attend university?
Students are normally impressionable and most look up to their highly educated teachers.It is the fault of universities that hire those radical teachers, not the students. Universities should concentrate on education and NOT radical politics.
Totally agree. The university should cull their libraries and follow the Florida enlightened ban on books like 'The Grapes of Wrath', naughty, naughty Steinbeck (take back his Nobel Prize as well). New curriculums on Climate Denial, Foreigner Hatred and Increasing Fossil fuel usage should all be established. Physics, Enviromental and perhaps Medicine should be cut back if not entirely eliminated. White racial superiority should be an element of all courses.

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